Archive for August, 2008

Essential Reading — “They Dare to Speak Out” by former congressman Paul Findley

Posted in Original Research with tags , on August 26, 2008 by The 800 Pound Gorilla

Most books out there attribute the uncanny Zionist influence on US policy to the devastatingly effective “Jewish vote” or the Jews’ celebrated ability to “organize.” But for anyone who wants to know the true extent of Zionist control over the American body politic — and the real means by which that control is exerted — “They Dare to Speak Out” by former congressman Paul Findley is a must-read.

In his daring expose of the Zionists’ near-absolute control over US Middle East policy, Findley — who served for 22 years as Republican congressman from Illinois — shines a light on the Zionist rot that goes well beyond the vaunted “Lobby.”

A true American patriot, Findley describes the Jewish choke-hold on US decision-making — the mere mention of which can lead to “career suicide” — and recounts how Israel’s critics in Washington have been harassed, intimidated and ultimately removed from public office by the Zionist political machine.
Beginning his career in the 1960s with a good deal of sympathy for the self-proclaimed Jewish state, Findley — a relatively naive young congressman — soon began to “doubt the wisdom of United States policy in the Middle East.” By the early 1970s, he realized that US policy was particularly flawed in regards to the perennial Israel-Palestine conflict, and that Washington’s overwhelming bias towards Israel was deeply detrimental to America’s best interest.

For example, Findley soon discovered — to his shock and surprise — that powerful pro-Israel forces in Washington were deliberately derailing efforts aimed at achieving peace in the Middle East. Although Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat was more than ready to come to terms with Israel by the late 1970s, Findley writes how representatives of the US government — including himself — were barred from talking to Arafat or to members of his Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO).

“Our unwillingness to talk directly to the political leadership of the Palestinians… handicapped our search for peace,” Findley writes (p. 11). “Why not talk directly to PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat, the acknowledged political voice of the Palestinians? One reason, I discovered, was that Henry Kissinger…had, yielding to an Israeli request, agreed not to communicate formally with the PLO until they recognized the right of Israel to exist — a tough demand, especially in light of Israel’s flat refusal to accept a new Palestinian state as its neighbor!”

As a result of Findley’s own efforts to hold talks with Arafat and other Palestinian moderates, he was soon tarred as a “practicing anti-Semite” by his detractors. Who knows? Had these and other peace efforts been allowed to proceed, the Arab-Israeli conflict might have been resolved decades ago.

Findley also became critical of the shocking amounts of annual US financial and military aid to Israel, which accounted at the time for some 43 percent of the entire budget for all US financial assistance worldwide. In his book, he chronicles how, time after time, all efforts to reduce financial aid to Israel — or make it contingent upon acceptable behavior vis-à-vis the Palestinians — were thwarted by Zionist political agents in the Senate and Congress.

“While the lobby is watchful over the full membership of the House, …it gives special emphasis to the members of the Foreign Affairs Committee, where the initial decisions are made on aid, both military and economic,” Findley writes (p. 67). “Under the watchful eye of Israel’s lobby, congressmen will go to extreme measures to help move legislation providing aid to Israel,” he writes (p. 78).

Findley recalls how in 1973 Senator J. William Fulbright of Arkansas, appearing on CBS television’s “Face the Nation,” declared that the US Senate was “subservient” to Israeli policies inimical to American interests. “Israel controls the Senate,” Fulbright stated (p.95), going on to warn, “We should be more concerned about the United States’ interests.”

Findley also quotes Senator James G. Abourezk (p. 99) as telling reporters in 1977: “As a US senator, I have sworn to uphold the government of the United States, but I never dreamed that I would be required to swear allegiance to any other government.” Abourezk went on to warn of the Zionist lobby’s “extraordinary influence,” saying that the US “is likely to become, if it has not already, a captive of its client state.”

In 1982, Findley goes on to write, Senator Adlai Stevenson III of Illinois proposed an amendment withholding $150 million of the $2.18 billion in annual US financial aid to Israel. “This preference for Israel diverts funds from the support of human life and vital American interests elsewhere in an interdependent and unstable world,” Stevenson is quoted as saying in defense of the amendment (p. 88). “It reflects continued US acquiescence in an Israeli policy which threatens more Middle East instability, more Israeli insecurity, and a continued decline of US authority in the world.”

How right he was. But despite this sound judgment, Stevenson’s proposal — like so many before and since — was overwhelmingly defeated by the Israel-firsters in control of the senate.

For his commitment to America’s interests, Stevenson was treated to a smear campaign by the Zionist-manipulated media. “It’s not only the intimidation of the American politician, it’s also the intimidation of some American journalists,” Stevenson is quoted as saying (p. 89), in reference to Zionist influence on the so-called “mainstream” media. “If it’s not the journalists, then it’s the editors and perhaps more so the publishers,” he stated.

Interestingly, Stevenson’s subsequent bid to become governor of Illinois was thwarted by a series of irregularities that Time magazine described as “so improbable, so coincidental, so questionable that it could have happened only in Wonderland or the Windy City” (p. 91). A request by Stevenson for a recount was later denied by the Illinois Supreme Court.

Findley also writes how US aid to Israel was allowed to go towards financing Israeli industries, which — in some cases, such as fighter aircraft — directly competed with US industrial exports. He writes that, in 1983, Congress passed a resolution authorizing “a remarkable new form of aid to Israel”:

“It included an amendment crafted by AIPAC… that permitted $250 million of the military grant aid to be spent in Israel on the development of a new Israeli fighter aircraft, the Lavi. The new fighter would compete for international sales with the Northrop F-20 and the General Dynamics F-16 — both specifically designed for export… The amendment authorized privileged treatment Uncle Sam had never before extended to a foreign competitor. It was extraordinary for another reason: it set aside a US law that requires that all foreign aid procurement funds be spent in the United States (p. 80).”

Unsurprisingly, the resolution was easily passed by the Israel-firsters in Congress — despite warnings by Congressman Nick J. Rahall of West Virginia that “approximately 6,000 jobs would be lost as a direct result of taking the $250 million out of the US economy and allowing Israel to spend it on defense articles… that can just as easily be purchased here in the United States.”

Findley’s words on the enormous amount of US financial assistance to Israel, and the host of additional perks extended to the Hebrew state by Washington, still apply today: “Aid to Israel — despite US budget problems and Israel’s defiant behavior toward the United States in its use of US-supplied weapons and its construction of settlements on occupied territory — is still rising with no peak in sight.”

Since 1985, annual US financial aid to Israel has continued to run at about $3 billion a year. Findley goes on to point out that no US president since Eisenhower has been able to stand up to the Israel lobby, which has consistently foiled attempts by the White House to forge intelligent, even-handed Middle East policy:

“[US President Gerald] Ford, dissatisfied with Israeli behavior, had just issued a statement calling for a ‘reappraisal’ of US policies in the Middle East,” Findley writes (p. 101). “Ford wanted better cooperation in reaching a compromise with Arab interests, and ‘reappraisal’ meant suspension of US aid until Israel improved its behavior. It was a historic proposal, the first time since Eisenhower that a US president even hinted publicly that he might suspend aid to Israel.”

“Israel’s response came, not from its own capital, but from the United States Senate,” he continues. “Instead of relying on a direct protest to the White House, Jerusalem activated its lobby in the United States, which, in turn, signed up as supporters of Israel’s position more than three-fourths of the members of the US Senate.”

“A more devastating — and intimidating — response could scarcely be conceived,” states Findley. “The 76 signatures effectively told Ford he could not carry out his threatened ‘reappraisal.’ Israel’s loyalists in the senate — democrats and republicans alike — were sufficient in number to reject any legislative proposal hostile to Israel that Ford might make, and perhaps even enact a pro-Israeli piece of legislation over a presidential veto.”

Findley goes on to recall how former president Richard Nixon “privately criticized Israel for failing to cooperate in a comprehensive settlement of issues with its Arab neighbors”:

“On several occasions, he [Nixon] ordered Henry Kissinger, national security advisor and later secretary of state, to suspend aid to Israel until it became more cooperative,” he writes (p. 122). “Three days before he resigned the presidency, Nixon instructed Kissinger to disapprove an Israeli request for long-term military assistance.”

But according to Findley, Kissinger — that unelected Jewish architect of US Cold War strategy — never carried out the order.

The book also reveals the extent of Israeli espionage on the United States — a long-standing phenomenon well-known in US intelligence circles.

“For years, Israel has been able to learn virtually every secret about US foreign policy in the Middle East,” Findley writes (p. 338). He quotes Washington Post reporter Charles Babcock as saying: “This remarkable intelligence harvest is provided largely not by paid agents, but by an unofficial network of sympathetic American officials who work in the Pentagon, State Department, congressional offices, the National Security Council and even the US intelligence agencies.”

“The [intelligence] leaks to Israel are fantastic,” according to a veteran US ambassador quoted in the book (p. 139). “If I have something I want the secretary of state to know, but don’t want Israel to know, I must wait until I have a chance to see him personally.” He adds: “It is a fact of life that everyone in authority is reluctant to put anything on paper that concerns Israel if it is to be withheld from Israel’s knowledge. Nor do such people even feel free to speak in a crowded room of such things.”

Findley goes on to quote an unnamed official as saying: “Israelis were caught in the Pentagon with unauthorized documents, sometimes scooping up the contents of in-boxes on desk tops (p. 142).”

Remarkably, several of the US officials with long-standing connections to Israeli espionage activities — such as Richard Perle and Richard Armitage — continue to play major roles in the current Bush administration.

These are only a few examples of the many instances of Zionist political control and manipulation presented in Findley’s courageous book. “They Dare to Speak Out” also contains interesting material on Zionist intimidation tactics and the “anti-Semite” libel; the Zionist threat to academic freedom; Israel’s dastardly attack on the USS Liberty in 1967 and the subsequent cover-up; and Zionist manipulation of America’s so-called “Christian right.”

If every American read this book when it was first published in 1985, the US political landscape would probably be considerably different today. As former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff Admiral Thomas Moorer is quoted as saying (p. 161), “If the American people understood what a grip those people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms.”

Unfortunately, “They Dare to Speak Out” does not appear to be available in PDF format. It can be purchased from a number of online new and used book retailers, however, including Amazon.com, at www.amazon.com/They-Dare-Speak-Out-Institutions/dp/1556520735.

Paul Findley, meanwhile, is still fighting the good fight. He is currently head and founder of the Council for the National Interest (CNI), which, according to its mission statement, strives to “repair the damage being done to our political institutions by the over-zealous tactics of Israel’s lobby.” The CNI’s website can be found at: http://www.cnionline.org.

“They Dare to Speak Out” by former congressman Paul Findley

Israel Shamir on 9/11: “The Panamanians did it”

Posted in Outing Liars with tags , , , on August 18, 2008 by The 800 Pound Gorilla

Russian Israeli writer Israel Shamir denies Israeli orchestration of 911 and only responds to left gatekeepers when rebutting any evidence topics or so called truth seekers. he says “There is always a place for critique and argument — even against Chomsky, and I have had my go at that, too. However, there are some red lines we should try to observe in friendly critique, and this one was a crude ad hominem and paranoid attack. Barrett is similar to the holocaust-obsessed Jews (and their ‘denying’ counterparts) who need your confirmation of their narrative and do not let go of your buttonhole until you respond. Let Barrett fight this war himself, without Chomsky at his disposal. This is a free country, more or less. For instance, I do not deny or confirm holocausts and massacres. Peak Oil does not pique me overmuch. And as for 9/11 whodunit, I feel that the 911 Truth Movement of Barrett et al. trivializes the event, turning it into a successful insurance swindle.I wrote about the event, at the time it took place:

“The kamikaze could be practically anybody: American Nationalists, American Communists, American Fundamentalist Christians, American Anarchists, anybody who rejects the twin gods of the dollar and the M-16, who hates the stock market and interventions overseas, who dreams of America for Americans, who does not want to support the drive for world domination. They could be Native Americans returning to Manhattan, or Afro-Americans who still have not received compensation for slavery.

They could be foreigners of practically any extraction, as Wall Street and the Pentagon ruined many lives of people all over the globe. Germans can remember the fiery holocaust of Dresden with its hundreds of thousands of peaceful refugees incinerated by the US Air Force. The Japanese will not forget the nuclear holocaust of Hiroshima. The Arab world still feels the creeping holocaust of Iraq and Palestine. Russians and East Europeans feel the shame of Belgrade. Latin Americans think of American invasions of Panama and Granada, of destroyed Nicaragua and defoliated Colombia. Asians count their dead of Vietnam War, Cambodia bombings, Laos CIA operations in millions. Even a pro-American, Russian TV broadcaster could not refrain from saying, ‘now Americans begin to understand the feelings of Baghdad and Belgrade’.

The Riders could be anybody who lost his house to the bank, who was squeezed from his work and made permanently unemployed, who was declared an Untermench by the new Herrenvolk. They could be Russians, Malaysians, Mexicans, Indonesians, Pakistanis, Congolese, Brazilians, Vietnamese, as their economy was destroyed by Wall Street and the Pentagon. They could be anybody, and they are everybody. Their identity is quite irrelevant as their message is more important than their personalities, and their message is read loud and clear in the choice of targets.”
I guess Mr. Shamir is just another left-gatekeeper with very enticing subject discussed such as blood libel, but will not address the 800 Pound Gorilla in the Room of Israeli orchestration and cover-up of 911.

Mr. Shamir goes on to say ” I can’t accept the Mossad and/or the Jews as the perpetrators of the 9/11, not because it is an antisemitic claim. My readers know that this consideration has never stopped me before. It’s the other way around: I consider it a deeply pro-Jewish claim implying that only Jews are capable of enterprises of great pith and moment, while others prefer to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune and never take arms against a sea of troubles. In a way, the Jewish perpetration theory shows how far this belief in Jewish superiority has entered the hearts of Americans and of many Muslims: “if it was done and it did not flop, it’s got to be Jews”. We Israelis are more critical; we say “if it did not flop, it can’t be the Mossad”.

note: I think Mr. Shamir is suppose to be a replacement for Israel Shahak (although I have no proof of this but I find it very hard to belive that in this day and age a 68 year old diabetics man in NYC just dies of diabeties complications) Israel Shahak, was the real deal, he was the only (famous) person that I know of to protest the Israeli campaign against Ahmed Rami’s Radioislam.org, which I think is being replaced by the very dubious ziopedia.org (which I think is front). Ahmed Rami Exposed the Current Zionist Jewish Moroccan regime.

just Like Alex Jones with his big Bohemian grove was suppose to gain a following to replace William Cooper, but it did not quite work out. as we all know. I think the media mangers like they do with politicians they do with the alternative media now, placing their agents among the unsuspecting public.

“Now you can be sure: Jews did 9/11″

Israel Shamir on 9/11: “The Panamanians did it”

Seymour Hersh, Professional Liar

Posted in Outing Liars with tags on August 13, 2008 by The 800 Pound Gorilla

Seymour Hersh

Seymour Hersh

The work of Seymour Hersh, journalist extraordinaire, often comes in for praise for its fearless revelations about the covert criminality of the US government. Hersh, reads the blurb on the back of his latest book, “reveals the stories the others can’t — or won’t — get.”
Yet an intelligent reading of Hersh’s work, especially his most recent books dealing with JFK and 9/11, will expose this Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter for what he is: a professional liar for the Zionist establishment.
Be warned, Mr. Hersh — the 800lb Gorilla is on to you.

"The Dark Side of Camelot” (1997) In “The Dark Side of Camelot” (1997), Hersh spends some 450 pages savaging the reputation of slain president John F. Kennedy, based largely on the words of not-very-credible-sounding sources more than thirty years after the fact.

But Hersh’s disgusting hit-job on Kennedy — who, by the way, opposed both the Federal Reserve and Israel’s budding nuclear-weapons program — is not the point here. Rather, I would draw the reader’s attention to what Hersh writes in the epilogue (p. 451 of the paperback version) regarding Kennedy’s death:

“Over the next thirty-five years, the nation would remain obsessed with the Kennedy assassination. Hundreds of books would be written, full of feverish speculation about Oswald and Ruby and their possible links to organized crime or Soviet intelligence. In five years of reporting for this book, I found nothing that would change the instinctive conclusions of Julius Draznin, or the much more detailed findings of the Warren Commission — Oswald and Ruby acted alone.”

Well, there you have it. Hersh, celebrated for his commitment to truth and fearless pursuit of the facts, subscribes to the Warren Commission’s thoroughly-discredited lone-gunman theory. And it’s not like he wrote these words in the 1970s — “Dark Side of Camelot” was published less than ten years ago.

This lone (and slightly oxymoronic) phrase — “Oswald and Ruby acted alone” — should alert every thinking reader to Hersh’s ultimate allegiance to the establishment.

If you need more proof, though, have a look at what this Pulitzer-Prize winner writes about the 9/11 attacks — which we all know by now were orchestrated by elements within the US government and the Israeli Mossad — in his latest book, “Chain of Command” (2004).

Chain of Command

Chain of Command

In this 400-page compendium of lies and half-truths, Hersh blames the events of 9/11 on incompetent US intelligence agencies, which — suffering from systemic post-Cold War negligence — were unable to prevent Al-Qaeda’s “brilliantly executed” attacks.

The title of the chapter, “Intelligence Failure,” says it all. Despite growing mountains of evidence implicating the US government and Mossad, Hersh repeats the tired mantra that Al-Qaeda “owed its success not just to the failings of the CIA but to the weakness of the FBI and the bureau’s chronic inability to synthesize intelligence reports, draw conclusions and work with other agencies.”

Hersh consistently blames the US failure to respond to the unfolding attacks on “official negligence” and “bureaucratic infighting,” doling out generous portions of this kind of tripe:

“The CIA of 2001 was not up to the job. Since the breakup of the Soviet Union a decade earlier, the CIA had become increasingly bureaucratic and unwilling to take risks, and had promoted officers who shared such values… It had steadily reduced its reliance on overseas human intelligence and cut the number of case officers abroad,” etc., etc.

But while Hersh spends pages lamenting official ineptitude, nowhere does he mention the dozens — if not hundreds — of smoking guns pointing to US/Israeli complicity in the events of 9/11. He writes nothing about the mysterious fate of Building 7; the strange circumstances surrounding Larry Silverstein’s ownership of the WTC complex; the myriad military exercises conducted on the day of the event; or — of course — the Israeli agents caught filming the first attack while shrieking with joy.

If Hersh is lying about the most important stuff — like JFK and 9/11 — what else is he lying about?

Hersh also wrote a book about Israel’s nuclear-weapons capacity (”The Samson Option,” 1991). Is that book, too — which revealed the existence of Israel’s enormous nuclear arsenal — another study in disinformation, like his later books? (For more on this question, see “The World’s Worst-Kept Secrets: the Jewish State’s Atomic Arsenal — or Is it All a Big Show”)

Hersh was first catapulted to fame by his 1972 expose of the massacres committed by US troops in the Vietnamese village of Mai Lai — and has been a rock star of journalism ever since. Was Hersh originally an honest reporter, who was later corrupted by the system?

Or is it possible that Hersh has worked for the establishment all along, and was allowed to break the controversial Mai Lai story in order to give him credibility in the eyes of a gullible public? He did, after all, spend his undergraduate years at the University of Chicago, a well-known nexus of “neo-conservative” scheming.

In any case, in light of his obvious lie-telling in the two books cited above, all of his work should be considered suspect until proven otherwise.

As for you Mr. Hersh, I suspect you’ve been lying to your readers for decades — about subjects of the greatest importance — all the while playing the part of the plucky, Jewish reporter fearlessly speaking truth to power. But you haven’t fooled everybody.

Be warned, Mr. Hersh — the 800lb Gorilla is on to you.

Seymour Hersh, Professional Liar

The Khazarian Empire strikes back

Posted in Breaking it Down! with tags on August 11, 2008 by The 800 Pound Gorilla

GeorgiaAccording to the well known Mossad news agency Debka Israel aids Georgia by military advisers, logistics, and Israel’s “interest” in the conflict from military sources.Also reports filtering out of the Georgia South Ossetia are claiming that “foreign fighters” have been found among dead Georgia troops. Eyewitnesses are telling Russian reporters that the bodies of “foreignes” wearing “black uniforms” (Blackwater) have been found among Georgian dead. European Tribune

a former Russian ambassador, said on Al jazeera Arabic on Sunday, August 10, 2008 , “Israel supplied and trained Georgia in the Conflict, he spoke in detail about the Israeli connection and reasons being outwardly Oil & Gas but it is strategic Control of the region”, he was cut off then later returned and did not mention Israel again. The former ambassador ‘s Israel Mention was omitted from the English report.


The South Ossetian government is claiming that the Georgian government employed mercenaries in their attack on the city of Tskhinvali.

Authorities in the unrecognized republic of South Ossetia claim that dark-skinned mercenaries took part in the attack on Tskhinvali, reports RIA Novosti, citing representative of the South Ossetian president in Russia Dmitry Medoev. He said there were bodies of many Georgian soldiers on the streets on Tskhinvali. “There were blacks among the dead, who were probably either mercenaries or instructors in the Georgian armed forces,” Medoev said.

Wait, it gets better.

Old Blackwater keep on rollin’?

In a phone interview with Russian media, the South Ossetian representative in Moscow indicated that the Georgian government has been employing foreign nationals in the fighting. In addition to the two black soldiers described above, they are suggesting that the lead tanks in the attack were crewed by Ukrainians.

If either of these charges is accurate, then the its likely that the conflict is going to grow more complex. The involvement of Ukrainian soldiers would threaten to involve that country in the fighting. Much of the eastern third of Ukraine is ethnically Russian and desires greater ties with Moscow not the West. One of the most visible aspects of that is the use of Russian, not Ukrainian as the language they prefer to communicate in. The map below shows the results of a 2003 KIIS (Kiev Institute of International Sociology) survey of language preference in the country.

There’s a Russian speaking swath here that extends from Kharkov and Donetsk in the East all the way west to the Moldovan breakaway region of Transnistria. The Ukrainian government looks on Moscow with a wary because of this, and ethnic intrigue is a core part of Ukrainian politics. The have a reason to avoid allowing the Russians to set a precedent that they may act to protect ethnic enclaves in CIS states.

While the last thing that the world needs is a conflict in which the former Soviet Republics form into rival, armed blocs, I’m much more concerned about the possibility that Blackwater might have been involved in the Georgian attack. While the the South Ossetian representative in Moscow suggests that the bodies of dead soldiers were black, an interview by Russian media with a first hand observer suggests that there was a misunderstanding.

(Skip to 10 min 30 secs, and yes I have to give Alex Jones a hat tip for a lot of the info in this section of my diary.)

In the video above a women being interviewed in Tskhinvali tells the reporter that:

There are also bodies over there. People that have been killed, mostly Ossetians, but also Georgians that had American emblems on the forearms and they were in black uniforms.

I was suspicious when I first heard this story, because it came from Infowars. However this checks out. It seems very, very likely that there are Blackwater personnel fighting in Georgia against Russian soldiers. This is so wrong in so many ways.

First, this has the potential to involved the United States in a fight against the choosing of our elected government because a bunch of *censored*wits want to go play soldier of fortune. If they are in fact Blackwater, why they hell are they wearing American emblems. What right do they have to claim the protection of the US government while fighting in a war to which we are not a party?

Actually, this sort of makes me happy, because at this point thy officially meet the legal definition of something that we’ve always know them to be: Mercenaries.

Let me explain.

The privatization of military force is one of my areas of interest. It’s another symptom of the horrible type of capitalism that our society has been infected by. As the title of one book title called it “Everything for Sale.”

There is no room for the sacred, and the use of lethal force is such a great threat to the preservation of human life that there must be strict limits on its use. There must be rules, not the vague incentives of the market. And ultimately it’ a small twist of the law that has turned the Blackwater corporation into a criminal entity. The same twist of the law that allowed them to avoid the fate of Sandline, Executive Outcomes, and the other mercenary organizations that operated in Africa during the 1990′s.

International law is very specific in defining whom is a mercenary and thus does not have the rights of a lawful combatant. Article 47 of Protocol I (1977)to the Geneva Conventions

Art 47. Mercenaries

1. A mercenary shall not have the right to be a combatant or a prisoner of war.

2. A mercenary is any person who:
(a) is specially recruited locally or abroad in order to fight in an armed conflict;
(b) does, in fact, take a direct part in the hostilities;
(c) is motivated to take part in the hostilities essentially by the desire for private gain and, in fact, is promised, by or on behalf of a Party to the conflict, material compensation substantially in excess of that promised or paid to combatants of similar ranks and functions in the armed forces of that Party;
(d) is neither a national of a Party to the conflict nor a resident of territory controlled by a Party to the conflict;
(e) is not a member of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict; and
(f) has not been sent by a State which is not a Party to the conflict on official duty as a member of its armed forces.

Blackwater and the other Private Security Corporations operating in Iraq have only been able to avoid designation as a mercenary organization as the result of a very specific section of this definition. Article 47 (2) d: “is neither a national of a Party to the conflict nor a resident of territory controlled by a Party to the conflict.”

At the beginning of the Iraq War, Blackwater and other firms got themselves into trouble because they had hired a bunch of ex security forces guys from South Africa and Chile. Those individuals met the definition of mercenaries, but the firm itself being American (yes, I know that they aren’t officially headquartered in the US) was in the clear.

The US was a party to the Iraq War. If it is in fact true that Blackwater is sending US nationals to fight in Georgia on behalf of the Georgian government, then they’ve crossed the line. They have become mercenaries, because they are “neither a national of a Party to the conflict nor a resident of territory controlled by a Party to the conflict.”

Maybe old Blackwater ain’t going to keep on rolling away after all.

In opening itself to the charge of being a mercenary organization it may become what is none as Hostis humani generis.

Hostis humani generis (Latin for “enemy of mankind”) is a legal term of art, originating from the admiralty law, and referring to the peculiar status, before the public international law, of maritime pirates, since time immemorial, and slavers, since the 18th century. It is also used in the present to describe the status of torturers….

It is considered an offense of universal jurisdiction, such that any state may board and seize a ship engaged in piracy, and any state may try a pirate and impose sanctions according to that state’s own law. Piracy is defined in Article 101 of the 1982 Convention on the Law of the Sea, and the 1958 Convention on the High Seas also regulates this exercise of jurisdiction. Under the same principles, these treaties, as well as the customary international law, allow states to act similarly against slavers on the high seas.

This has been the legal justification offered by the Bush administration for why prisoners at Guatanamo are not to be afforded the status of prisoners of war.

If Blackwater is operating in Georgia, their personnel are not going to have legal status are combatants. Being mercenaries, they are unlawful combatants, and thus hold the same legal status that the US applies to Al Qaeda.

And while I don’t think that there’s case law against a mercenary firm, I think that a strong case can be made that the Blackwater corporation must face the same charges that apply to those they appear to have sent to fight in Georgia.

Do you think that the Bush Admnistration will take appropriate action?


Israel backs Georgia in Caspian Oil Pipeline Battle with Russia
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
August 8, 2008, 4:26 PM (GMT+02:00)
Georgian tanks and infantry, aided by Israeli military advisers, captured the capital of breakaway South Ossetia, Tskhinvali, early Friday, Aug. 8, bringing the Georgian-Russian conflict over the province to a military climax.
Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin threatened a “military response.”

Former Soviet Georgia called up its military reserves after Russian warplanes bombed its new positions in the renegade province.

In Moscow’s first response to the fall of Tskhinvali, president Dimitry Medvedev ordered the Russian army to prepare for a national emergency after calling the UN Security Council into emergency session early Friday.
Reinforcements were rushed to the Russian “peacekeeping force” present in the region to support the separatists.
Georgian tanks entered the capital after heavy overnight heavy aerial strikes, in which dozens of people were killed.

Lado Gurgenidze, Georgia’s prime minister, said on Friday that Georgia will continue its military operation in South Ossetia until a “durable peace” is reached. “As soon as a durable peace takes hold we need to move forward with dialogue and peaceful negotiations.”
DEBKAfile’s geopolitical experts note that on the surface level, the Russians are backing the separatists of S. Ossetia and neighboring Abkhazia as payback for the strengthening of American influence in tiny Georgia and its 4.5 million inhabitants. However, more immediately, the conflict has been sparked by the race for control over the pipelines carrying oil and gas out of the Caspian region.

The Russians may just bear with the pro-US Georgian president Mikhail Saakashvili’s ambition to bring his country into NATO. But they draw a heavy line against his plans and those of Western oil companies, including Israeli firms, to route the oil routes from Azerbaijan and the gas lines from Turkmenistan, which transit Georgia, through Turkey instead of hooking them up to Russian pipelines.

Saakashvili need only back away from this plan for Moscow to ditch the two provinces’ revolt against Tbilisi. As long as he sticks to his guns, South Ossetia and Abkhazia will wage separatist wars.

DEBKAfile discloses Israel’s interest in the conflict from its exclusive military sources:

Jerusalem owns a strong interest in Caspian oil and gas pipelines reach the Turkish terminal port of Ceyhan, rather than the Russian network. Intense negotiations are afoot between Israel Turkey, Georgia, Turkmenistan and Azarbaijan for pipelines to reach Turkey and thence to Israel’s oil terminal at Ashkelon and on to its Red Sea port of Eilat. From there, supertankers can carry the gas and oil to the Far East through the Indian Ocean.

Aware of Moscow’s sensitivity on the oil question, Israel offered Russia a stake in the project but was rejected.

Last year, the Georgian president commissioned from private Israeli security firms several hundred military advisers, estimated at up to 1,000, to train the Georgian armed forces in commando, air, sea, armored and artillery combat tactics. They also offer instruction on military intelligence and security for the central regime. Tbilisi also purchased weapons, intelligence and electronic warfare systems from Israel.

These advisers were undoubtedly deeply involved in the Georgian army’s preparations to conquer the South Ossetian capital Friday.

In recent weeks, Moscow has repeatedly demanded that Jerusalem halt its military assistance to Georgia, finally threatening a crisis in bilateral relations. Israel responded by saying that the only assistance rendered Tbilisi was “defensive.”

This has not gone down well in the Kremlin. Therefore, as the military crisis intensifies in South Ossetia, Moscow may be expected to punish Israel for its intervention.


Russia seizes Georgia base, opens second front

Russia opened a second front of fighting in Georgia on Monday, sending armored vehicles beyond two breakaway provinces and seizing a military base and police stations in the country’s west, the Georgian government and a Russian official said.

The new forays into Georgia – even as Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili on signed a cease-fire pledge – appeared to show Russian determination to subdue the small, U.S.-backed country, which has been pressing for NATO membership.

The latest developments indicate that Russian troops have invaded Georgia proper from the separatist province of Abkhazia while most Georgian forces are locked up in fighting around another breakaway region of South Ossetia.

The West has sharply criticized Russia’s military response to Georgia’s attack on South Ossetia as disproportionate, and the world’s seven largest economic powers urged Russia on Monday to accept an immediate cease-fire and agree to international mediation.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and her colleagues from the Group of Seven leading industrialized nations spoke by telephone and pledged their support for a negotiated solution to the conflict that has been raging since Friday between the former Soviet state and Russia, a State Department official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the call had not yet been formally announced.

Nana Intskerveli, the Georgian Defense Ministry’s spokeswoman, said Russian armored personnel carriers rolled into the base in Senaki, about 20 miles inland from the Black Sea port of Poti.

Georgian Interior Ministry spokesman Shota Utiashvili said Russian forces also took over police stations in the town of Zugdidi – about 20 miles from the base and also outside Abkhazia.

In Moscow, a government official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to give his name, confirmed the move into Senaki and said it was intended to prevent Georgian troops from concentrating.

The move followed Russia’s warning to Georgian forces west of Abkhazia to lay down arms or face a Russian military action. Senaki is located about 30 miles east of the Inguri River, which separates Abkhazia from Georgia proper.


Update Posted on Mon, Aug. 11, 2008

Russia opens new front, drives deeper into Georgia

By CHRISTOPHER TORCHIA and DAVID NOWAK

Associated Press Writers

Russian soldiers seen atop a military vehicle, somewhere in South Ossetia, Monday, Aug. 11, 2008.  Russian armored vehicles rolled deep into western Georgia on Monday, quickly taking control of several towns and a military base and slicing open a damaging second front in Russia's battle with Georgia.  Other Russian forces captured the key central city of Gori.
Musa Sadulayev
Russian soldiers seen atop a military vehicle, somewhere in South Ossetia, Monday, Aug. 11, 2008. Russian armored vehicles rolled deep into western Georgia on Monday, quickly taking control of several towns and a military base and slicing open a damaging second front in Russia’s battle with Georgia. Other Russian forces captured the key central city of Gori.


Russian tanks roared deep into Georgia on Monday, launching a new western front in the conflict, and Russian planes staged air raids that sent people screaming and fleeing for cover in some towns.

The escalating warfare brought sharp words from President Bush, who pressed Moscow to accept an immediate cease-fire and pull its troops out to avert a “dramatic and brutal escalation” of violence in the former Soviet republic.

Russian forces for the first time moved well outside the two restive, pro-Russian provinces claimed by Georgia that lie at the heart of the dispute. An Associated Press reporter saw Russian troops in control of government buildings in this town just miles from the frontier and Russian troops were reported in nearby Senaki.

Georgia’s president said his country had been sliced in half with the capture of a critical highway crossroads near the central city of Gori, and Russian warplanes launched new air raids across the country.

The Russian Defense Ministry, through news agencies, denied it had captured Gori and also denied any intentions to advance on the Georgian capital of Tbilisi.

The western assault expanded the days-old war beyond the central breakaway region of South Ossetia, where a crackdown by Georgia last week drew a military response from Russia.

While most Georgian forces were still busy fighting there, Russian troops opened the western attack by invading from a second separatist province, Abkhazia, that occupies Georgia’s coastal northwest arm.

Russian forces moved into Senaki, 20 miles inland from the Black Sea, and seized police stations in Zugdidi, just outside the southern fringe of Abkhazia. Abkhazian allies took control of the nearby village of Kurga, according to witnesses and Georgian officials.

U.N. officials B. Lynn Pascoe and Edmond Mulet in New York, speaking at an emergency Security Council meeting asked for by Georgia, also confirmed that Russian troops have driven well beyond South Ossetia and Abkhazia, U.N. diplomats said on condition of anonymity because it was a closed session. They said Russian airborne troops were not meeting any resistance while taking control of Georgia’s Senaki army base.

“A full military invasion of Georgia is going on,” Georgian Ambassador Irakli Alasania told reporters later. “Now I think Security Council has to act.”

France also circulated a draft resolution calling for the “cessation of hostilities, and the complete withdrawal of Russian and Georgian forces” to prior positions. The council is expected to take up the draft proposal Tuesday.

The Georgian president, Mikhail Saakashvili, told CNN late Monday that Russian forces were cleansing Abkhazia of ethnic Georgians.

“I directly accuse Russia of ethnic cleansing,” he said. At the U.N. on Friday, each side accused the other of ethnic cleansing.

By late Monday, Russian news agencies, citing the Defense Ministry, said troops had left Senaki “after liquidating the danger,” but did not give details.

Early Tuesday, Russia’s Interfax news agency reported that separatist troops in Abkhazia started an operation to push Georgian forces out of the northern Kodori Gorge, the only area of Abkhazia still under Georgian control. Interfax reported that Abkhazia defense headquarters said the offensive began about 2 a.m.

The new Russia assault came despite a claim earlier in the day by a top Russian general that Russia had no plans to enter undisputed Georgian territory.

Saakashvili earlier told a national security meeting Russia had also taken central Gori, which its on Georgia’s only east-west highway, cutting off the eastern half of the nation from the western Black Sea coast.

But the news agency Interfax cited a Russian Defense Ministry official as denying Gori was captured. Attempts to reach Gori residents by telephone late Monday did not go through.

Fighting also raged Monday around Tskhinvali, the capital of the separatist province of South Ossetia.

Even as Saakashvili signed a cease-fire pledge Monday with European mediators, Russia flexed its military muscle and appeared determined to subdue the small U.S. ally, which has been pressing for NATO membership.

“The bombs that are falling on us, they have an inscription on them: This is for NATO. This is for the U.S.,” Saakashvili told CNN.

Russia’s massive and multi-pronged offensive has drawn wide criticism from the West, but Russia has rejected calls for a cease-fire and said it was acted to protect its citizens. Most residents of the separatist regions have Russian passports.

In Zugdidi, an AP reporter saw five or six Russian soldiers posted outside an Interior Ministry building. Several tanks and other armored vehicles were moving through the town but the streets were nearly deserted. Shops, restaurants and banks were shut down.

In the city of Gori, an AP reporter heard artillery fire and Georgian soldiers warned locals to get out because Russian tanks were approaching. Hundreds of terrified residents fled toward Tbilisi, many trying to flag down passing cars.

An AP film crew saw Georgian tanks and military vehicles speeding along the road from Gori to Tbilisi. Firing began and people ran for cover. Cars could be seen in flames along the side of the road.

Both provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia have run their own affairs without international recognition since fighting to split from Georgia in the early 1990, and both have close ties with Moscow.

When Georgia began its offensive to regain control over South Ossetia, the Russian response was swift and overpowering – thousands of troops and tanks poured in.

Georgia had pledged a cease-fire, but it rang hollow Monday. An AP reporter saw a small group of Georgian fighters open fire on a column of Russian and Ossetian military vehicles outside Tskhinvali, triggering a 30-minute battle. The Russians later said all the Georgians were killed.

Another AP reporter was in the village of Tkviavi, 7 1/2 miles south of Tskhinvali inside undisputed Georgian territory, when a bomb from a Russian warplane struck a house. The walls of neighboring buildings fell as screaming residents ran for cover. Eighteen people were wounded.

Hundreds of Georgian troops headed north Monday along the road toward Tskhinvali, pocked with tank regiments creeping up the highway into South Ossetia.

In a statement in the Rose Garden, Bush said there was an apparent attempt by Russia to unseat the pro-Western Saakashvili. He said further Russian action would conflict with Russian assurance its actions were meant to restore peace in the pro-Russian separatist areas.

Bush and other Western leaders have also complained that Russian warplanes – buzzing over Georgia since Friday – have bombed Georgian oil sites and factories far from the conflict zone.

The world’s seven largest economic powers urged Russia to accept an immediate cease-fire agree to international mediation.

Putin criticized the United States for viewing Georgia as the victim instead of the aggressor, and for airlifting Georgian troops back home from Iraq on Sunday.

“Of course, Saddam Hussein ought to have been hanged for destroying several Shiite villages,” Putin said in Moscow. “And the incumbent Georgian leaders who razed ten Ossetian villages at once, who ran elderly people and children with tanks, who burned civilian alive in their sheds – these leaders must be taken under protection.”

The U.S. military was informing Russia about the flights from Iraq to avoid mishaps, one military official said Monday on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak about the subject on the record.

A Defense Department spokesman said the U.S. expected to have all Georgian troops out of Iraq by day’s end.

Pentagon officials said Monday that U.S. military was assessing the fighting every day to determine whether to pull the fewer than 100 remaining American trainers out of the country.

EU envoys were headed to Moscow to try to persuade Russia to accept a cease-fire. French President Nicolas Sarkozy said he will meet Tuesday in Moscow with President Dmitri Medvedev and then travel to Tbilisi for a meeting with Saakashvili.

Saakashvili voiced concern Russia’s true goal was to undermine his pro-Western government. “It’s all about the independence and democracy of Georgia,” he said.

The Georgian president said Russia had sent 20,000 troops and 500 tanks into Georgia. He said Russian warplanes were bombing roads and bridges, destroying radar systems and targeting Tbilisi’s civilian airport. One Russian bombing raid struck the Tbilisi airport area only a half-hour before EU envoys arrived, he said.

Another hit near key Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline, which carries Caspian crude to the West. No supply interruptions have been reported.

At least 9,000 Russian troops and 350 armored vehicles were in Abkhazia, according to a Russian military commander.

Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister Grigory Karasin said more than 2,000 people have been killed in South Ossetia since Friday, most of them Ossetians with Russian passports. The figures could not be independently confirmed, but refugees who fled Tskhinvali over the weekend said hundreds had been killed.

Many found shelter in the Russian province of North Ossetia.

“The Georgians burned all of our homes,” said one elderly woman, as she sat on a bench under a tree with three other white-haired survivors. “The Georgians say it is their land. Where is our land, then?”

The Khazarian Empire strikes back

Seven detained Baha’i believers have confessed to setting up an illegal organization in Iran that took orders from Israel

Posted in Original Research with tags on August 11, 2008 by The 800 Pound Gorilla

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Iran Arrests 7 Israeli Spies 16:37 | 2008-08-03TEHRAN (FNA)- Seven detained Baha’i believers have confessed to setting up an illegal organization in Iran that took orders from Israel and others to undermine the Islamic system, an Iranian paper reported on Saturday the 2nd of August 2008.

The report in Resalat daily comes amid Israel’s heightened threats against Iran. Israel, believed to be the only Middle-East country with nuclear weapons, and its close ally the United States accuse Iran of seeking a nuclear weapon, while they have never presented any corroborative document to substantiate their allegations.

Iran vehemently denies the charges, insisting that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only. Tehran stresses that the country has always pursued a civilian path to provide power to the growing number of Iranian population, whose fossil fuel would eventually run dry.
The Resalat report appeared to refer to a group of Baha’is, most of whom were detained in May, but it did not spell this out. Judiciary officials had no immediate comment.

“Seven Baha’i individuals have set up an illegal organization with connections to a number of countries including Israel and they have received orders from them to undertake measures against the Islamic system,” Resalat reported.

Resalat quoted an official in charge of security affairs of Tehran’s revolutionary court, named as Mr. Haddad, as saying that the seven latest arrests had made confessions. Revolutionary courts handle matters of national security.

“This fact led to the arrest of seven individuals. They have all confessed to the formation of an illegal organization, including (having ties) with Israel,” Resalat added.

Iran said in May it had detained six members of the Baha’i faith on security-related charges.

The seven arrestees were members of The Baha’i International Community, operating under a governing council which is based in Israel.


Iran: Baha’is confessed to taking orders from Israel Tue., August 05, 2008
By Haaretz Correspondent and Reuters , By Yoav SternSeven Baha’i believers detained by the Iranian authorities have confessed to setting up an illegal organization in Iran that took orders from Israel and others for the purpose of undermining the Islamic system, an Iranian newspaper reported yesterday.

The seven will apparently be charged with illegal acts against the Islamic regime in Iran and of taking orders from Israel and other countries.

The heads of the world Baha’i community yesterday rejected the Iranian accusations as “ridiculous.”

Douglas Moore, director of the Baha’i public information office, at the Baha’i World Center in Haifa, told Haaretz yesterday that the Iranian claim was an excuse to harm the heads of the Baha’i community. Moore said the Baha’i International Community categorically rejected the charges and viewed them as religious persecution. He said it was very easy to accuse them of spying for Israel because hatred of Israel is so great in Iran.

Moore told Israel Radio: “We see this as another trumped-up charge against the Baha’is in order for the government to go through the motions of setting them up on charges and convicting them on charges.”

The initial report, in the Iranian newspaper Resalat, appeared to refer to a group of Baha’is, most of whom were detained in May, but it did not spell this out. Judicial officials in Iran had no immediate comment.

Resalat quoted an official in charge of security affairs for Tehran’s revolutionary court, named only as Mr. Haddad, as saying that the seven latest arrested individuals had confessed. “They have all confessed to the formation of an illegal organisation, including [having ties] with Israel,” the paper added. The seven are expected to stand trial before a revolutionary court, which could sentence them to death. Revolutionary courts handle matters of national security.

Baha’is say hundreds of their faith have been jailed and executed since Iran’s 1979 Islamic revolution, a charge that is denied by the Iranian government.

For many years, the Iranian regime has allowed the Baha’i community to tend to its needs by way of a council of seven to eight members. The Baha’i International Community had said those detained were members of the committee. It said the group of six were detained in May and a seventh member was detained in March.

The families of the detainees do not know where they are being held. About six weeks ago, the detainees were each permitted to make a minute-long phone call to their families, but since then there has been no contact with them.

The Baha’i International Community represents the faith worldwide, operating under a governing council that has its base in Israel. Baha’is say the faith has 5 million adherents worldwide, including an estimated 300,000 or more in Iran.

Baha’is regard their faith’s 19th-century founder, Baha’ullah (1817-1892), as the latest in a line of prophets including Abraham, Moses, Buddha, Jesus and Mohammed. Islam views Baha’is as heretics because they defy the Islamic principle that Mohammed was the last of the prophets.

Baha’ullah was exiled from Persia to Acre by the Ottoman Turks because of the religious status he had attained in Persia. He is buried near the house where he lived, north of Acre.

The disseminator of the faith, known as the Bab, is buried in Haifa.

To avoid religious persecution, the Baha’is conduct no religious or political activity in Israel. They have a presence in almost every country in the world, and suffer persecution from the regimes of other Islamic countries too, such as Egypt.


Last update – 18:13 03/08/2008
Int’l Baha’i community denies those held by Iran linked with Israel
By Reuters
Tags: Baha’i, Iran, arrests, IsraelSeven detained Baha’i believers have confessed to setting up an illegal organization in Iran that took orders from Israel and others to undermine the Islamic system, an Iranian newspaper reported on Sunday.

The report in the Resalat daily appeared to refer to a group of Baha’is, most of whom were detained in May, but it did not spell this out. Judiciary officials had no immediate comment.

The international Baha’i community denied the charges.

Bani Dugal, the principal representative of the Baha’i International Community to the United Nations, denied the charge in a statement issued in New York.

“Suggestions of collusion with the state of Israel are categorically false and misleading. The Iranian authorities are playing on the fact that the Baha’i world administrative centre is located in northern Israel,” she said.

The revelation comes amid heightened tensions between Iran and Israel over Tehran’s disputed nuclear plans. Israel has accused Iran of seeking atomic bombs and has not ruled out military action if diplomacy fails. Iran has denied the charge.

“Seven Baha’i individuals have set up an illegal organization with connections to a number of countries including Israel and they have received orders from them to undertake measures against the Islamic system,” Resalat reported.

Resalat quoted an official in charge of security affairs of Tehran’s revolutionary court, named only as Mr Haddad, as saying that the seven latest arrests had confessed. Revolutionary courts handle matters of national security.

“This fact led to the arrest of seven individuals. They have all confessed to the formation of an illegal organization, including (having ties) with Israel,” Resalat added.

Iran said in May it had detained six members of the Baha’i faith on security-related charges.

The Baha’i International Community had said they were members of a committee that tends to the needs of Baha’is in Iran. It said the group of six were detained in May and a seventh member was detained in March.

The Baha’i International Community represents the faith worldwide, operating under a governing council which is based in Israel, according to its website http://www.bahai.org.

Baha’is say hundreds of their faith have been jailed and executed since Iran’s 1979 Islamic revolution. The government denies it has detained or executed people for their religion.

Baha’is regard their faith’s 19th-century founder as the latest in a line of prophets including Abraham, Moses, Buddha, Jesus and Mohammad. Iran’s Shi’ite religious establishment considers the faith a heretical offshoot of Islam.

The Baha’i faith originated in Iran 150 years ago and Baha’is say the faith has 5 million adherents worldwide, including an estimated 300,000 or more in Iran.

Seven detained Baha’i believers have confessed to setting up an illegal organization in Iran that took orders from Israel

The Sins of their Fathers — The Guardian reports how the children of Nazis now live in Israel as practicing Jews

Posted in Breaking it Down! with tags , on August 10, 2008 by The 800 Pound Gorilla

Just when you thought the official Holocaust narrative couldn’t get any more bizarre, prominent UK newspaper The Guardian reports how the descendants of Nazis are currently living — as practicing Jews — in Israel.

In this article of August 6, 2008, reporter Tanya Gold explores “the strange subculture of Nazi-descended Jews” in Israel, offering a glimpse into the obscure relationship — seldom discussed — between Nazism and Zionism. Gold interviews one Nazi scion currently serving as a senior rabbi in the Israeli armed forces, as well as a relative of Hitler himself — now a professor of Jewish studies at a prominent Israeli university.

The Sins of their Fathers
The Guardian, August 6 2008
A relative of Hitler is now Jewish and living in Israel. So is the son of a Waffen-SS man. Tanya Gold talks to the descendants of Nazis who have embraced Judaism

Two years ago I read a strange little story in an obscure American magazine for Orthodox Jews, claiming that a descendant of Adolf Hitler had converted to Judaism and was living in Israel. I had heard rumors in Jewish circles for years about “the penitents” — children of Nazis who become Jews to try to expiate the sins of their fathers.

Could it be true? I dug further and discovered that a man with a family connection to Hitler does indeed live in Israel as an Orthodox Jew. Virtually unnoticed in the English-speaking world, he was exposed seven years ago in an Israeli tabloid. Then he sank from sight. I went to Israel to meet him — and on the way I was plunged into the strange subculture of the Nazi-descended Jews.

I am walking through the alleys of the Old City of Jerusalem, to meet Aharon Shear-Yashuv. He is the son of a Nazi. And yet he was a senior rabbi in the Israeli armed forces.

Gali Tibbon

Rabbi Aharon Shear-Yashuv’s father was a soldier in the Waffen-SS. Photograph: Guardian - Gali Tibbon

He lives in an apartment in the Jewish quarter, near the Western Wall. I walk through a pale gold alley; Orthodox Jewish men in long black coats and round fur hats dart past. He opens the door and looks like every other rabbi I have ever met — a black suit, a beard, a questioning shrug. He takes me into his study, settles into a chair, and says, in a thick German accent: “My father was in the Waffen-SS.”

He was, he explains, born in the Ruhr Valley in 1940. During the war, his father served on the eastern front with Hitler’s elite troops. What did his father do in the Waffen-SS? “I don’t know,” he says calmly. “When I grew up I tried to ask, but there weren’t really answers.”

He was four when he first met his father. “I don’t remember anything about that,” he says. It seems he doesn’t want to talk about his father; he doesn’t describe his conversion in psychological terms but in grand theological and historical ones.

“During my theological studies at university it became clear that I couldn’t be a minister in the church,” he says. “I concluded that Christianity was paganism. One of [its] most important dogmas is that God became man, and if God becomes man then man also can become God.” He pauses. “Hitler became a kind of god.”

So would he have become a Jew even if the Holocaust had never happened, even if his family had been anti-Nazi? He looks surprised. “Oh yes.” I try to draw him back to his father, but he seems exasperated. “Well, you see, he is a father, of course, but ideologically, there was no connection. I was so involved in my conviction that I had found the right path, all the other items no longer had any importance.”

Fragments of the story begin to emerge through the haze of theological reasoning. His father was “shocked and enraged” when he went to study Judaism in America, he concedes. “For him that was the end of the world. ‘My son is leaving Germany to study in a Jewish rabbinical seminary!’ He told me I was crazy and renounced me as a son.”

When he moved to Israel, his parents pretended that it hadn’t happened; they told their neighbors he was still in America. Years later, his sister arranged a meeting with his parents at a station in Düsseldorf. Shear-Yashuv arrived with a Jewish friend. His father peered out of the train, saw the Jewish stranger, and refused to get off.

Today, he believes Germany is doomed. “People there don’t get married, and if they do they have one child,” he says. “But the Turks and the other foreigners have many children. So it is a question of time that Germany will no longer be German.” Why does he think this has happened? “I think it is a punishment for the Holocaust,” he says, matter-of-factly. “Germany will leave the stage of history, no doubt about it.” But the Jews, by contrast, will never die. This is a neat irony of history that he loves. “All the great cultures have left the stage of history,” he says. “The Romans, the Greeks, the Egyptians, the Babylonians. But this little people, who gave so much to the world, do not.” He chuckles. “That is something.”

I walk through the Old City, pondering my encounter with this strange, kindly man. Something seems to be missing from his story. To stand in front of a rabbi whose father was in the SS and to hear he became a Jew because he doubted the Trinity is absurd.

So I telephone Dan Bar-On, a professor of psychology at Ben Gurion University, and a world expert on the psychology of the children of perpetrators. He tells me, flatly, pitilessly: “The motive of the converts is to join the community of the victims. If you become part of the victim community, you get rid of the burden of being part of the perpetrator community.” He interviewed Shear-Yashuv for his book Legacy of Silence. “For me,” he says, “Shear-Yashuv represents a person who ran away from the past.”

A few days later, I take a tatty bus to the Holocaust memorial Yad Vashem, on a mountain just outside Jerusalem. There is an air of absolute, manufactured silence. In the middle is a glass-and-concrete mausoleum — the memorial. I am here to meet a woman who works in the educational department. She was born in Munich, she told me on the telephone, and she is a convert.

I meet her in a cafe on the terrace; it is very chichi, but the wind is blowing in from the desert. She is in her late 30s and her head is covered. Her face is stereotypically German but the mannerisms — her emphatic movements and the soaring cadences of her voice — are all Jewish.

I cannot name her, she says. (Apart from Shear-Yashuv, every convert refuses to be named.) She tells me, briskly and crossly, that although her grandparents were not perpetrators in the Holocaust, they were bystanders, anti-Semites. Her mother, she explains, still says things like, “There are a lot of rich Jews in America,” and her family have what she calls “a classic German narrative” about the war.

She bunches her fists. “There were no Jews in these stories and no Nazis in these stories,” she says. And she imitates them, angrily. “No, no, there were no Nazis, we are not Nazis. We didn’t know any Jews, we didn’t know anything.” How did she feel about it? She pauses, and then says, “I was annoyed.”

Her favored word for Germany is “annoyed”. She was “annoyed” when a synagogue recently opened in Munich. “People said, ‘Now we have closed the circle; now everything is fine,’” she says. “It was like nothing had happened. But there were 11,000 Jews in Munich before the Holocaust. Where are they now?”

She is annoyed by the affluence of Germany. “Everything is so clean,” she says. “Everything is so … nice. And here,” she stares out over the mountains, “the life is so difficult sometimes.”

Why did she become Jewish? “Because I was annoyed by how the narrative was fixed,” she says. She tells me a story from the Midrash, a Jewish commentary on the Bible. There are, it states, non-Jews who are born with Jewish souls. They belong to the Jewish people, and will eventually join them. “It is only a matter of time,” she says, speaking very seriously, “before you learn you should convert.” I remember Shear-Yashuv said this too.

I ask her if she believes that Nazi children convert to expiate the guilt of their parents — but this angers her. “There is something not right when you do it to get rid of your German burden,” she says. “That is not honest in my eyes. Do you stop being the daughter of a Wehrmacht soldier if you are Jewish? No. That is no solution. You don’t get rid of it.”

So why is she here? “To live here, to work here, to be this bridge between two worlds.” She repeats the word “bridge” and she calls it “exciting”. She talks of her “motivation package” and she calls the “discourse about the Holocaust” in Germany “sophisticated”. There is something emotionless about it, something deeply unsaid. And precisely on the stroke of the hour, she looks at her watch and says, “I have to go now.”

I call Bar-On again. I feel the converts are giving me half-answers, scraps of answers. They talk about despising the Trinity and the terrible things that the Germans did to the Jews, but it seems like they are talking a genocide that doesn’t exist, even in their memories. I can’t escape the feeling that it is all about something else.

I tell Bar-On they talk obsessively about the Trinity. But is incredulity really a reason for abandoning a religion with a three-in-one god for one that still believes bushes talk and that waves are parted by the will of God? “That is another way of saying what I have already told you,” he says. “They want to join the community of the victim. They may have their own way of rationalizing it.”

Later that day, I meet a young man. He bounces into a kebab shop on West Jerusalem’s main drag. He is 24, handsome and excitable. He tells me, simply, that he hated Germany.

“In Germany I didn’t care about anyone,” he spits. “I didn’t give a *censored*.” He describes a jumbled youth, being thrown out of school, joining the army, rejecting the army. After a while, he drags me off to the Independence Park, sipping a Coke, and telling me how wonderful it all is in Israel.

He describes growing up in a small town in industrial western Germany. A terrible anger leaks into his sentences. When I ask him why he converted, he stares at the spindly trees, bunches his arms between his knees like an adolescent boy, and says, “I hate that question. I don’t know.”

He calms down and says that something wasn’t right for him in Germany, ever: “I was always looking for my place. I hated Catholicism. I have hated it since I was 14.” He educated himself and what he likes about Judaism, he says, is that “what counts is the deed. In Christianity it is enough just to believe.”

“I didn’t think of my family of being like ‘the Germans’,” he says. “I didn’t say, ‘Grandfather, did you kill anyone?’ My grandmother said, ‘As kids under the Nazis, before the war, we had a wonderful time. They sent us to Croatia, they sent us to Sweden, and we had youth camps. How could we not be thankful for what they gave us?’”

The Holocaust was just a subject you learned in history, he says. “You went in the classroom twice a week, they told you, you fell asleep.”

But he tells me one of his grandmother’s anecdotes about Nazism. “She remembers Kristallnacht,” he says. “She was 13. She says she remembered there were Jewish shops that got burned down and it was a big loss. Because, she said, you could always go to the Jews and buy something and if you didn’t have the money you could bring it in next time.”

And that is his family. He never asked them about the war — I have yet to meet a convert who has. According to Bar-On, converts and their parents almost never speak about the war. He calls it the “double wall”: both the parent and child erect a wall of silence; even if one tries to break it, the other will keep it firmly in place.

This man told his parents he was converting one Christmas Day. He has had death threats from neo-Nazis, he says. His hometown is full of them. Why does he think they became neo-Nazis? “Ask them — don’t ask me,” he replies.

Did he become Jewish because of the Holocaust? “People ask me that a lot,” he says, “and when I say no they don’t believe me.” Does he really believe that? “Maybe.” He sighs and looks around at the trees. “Maybe what the war made Germany into …” He pauses and then says, “I feel myself turning into a block of ice every time when I go back. I have to force myself to melt down again.”

I call Bar-On a final time. They all say they are happy now, I tell him. Is this true? The conversion “may give them an illusion of peace”, he says. “But it is not the way to work through the role of the parents [in the war]. I think it is running away from it. In order to be able to really work through the past, you have to try to understand how could it be that your father was a mass murderer. You have to think of the possibilities that had you lived at this time you might also have been able to do such things.”

Is he telling me that they are always wondering what they would have done in Nazi Germany to the Jews they have become? “Being in Israel is to keep away as far as possible from it,” he replies. “I am not sure to what extent they have really been accepted into Israeli society. I think they are struggling. I don’t envy them.”

As far as I can tell, the converts may know of each other, but they do not come together. In Judaism it is a sin to point the finger at a convert. And why would they? They are not here to be German; they are here to be Jewish.

I return to the suburbs to meet an artist. This convert is also a member of an organization that promotes human rights for Palestinians. An incredibly beautiful woman answers the door and I say hello. “Oh, no,” she says. “You are not here to speak to me — you are here to speak to my girlfriend.” The woman I have come to interview is small and wiry, with short hair; she says she is 42. She speaks very, very fast. The words pour out of her.

She sits me down and gives me cake and coffee. I say I have interviewed a lot of converts. “Are they all mad?” she asks me, and laughs. What does she mean? “Well,” she says, “I met some who surprised me. Some of them were shockingly unintelligent. I even wondered why they would have the intellectual independence to make this choice — especially the people who chose to be ultra-Orthodox, who chose to throw away their freedom.”

She shrugs. “There is stigma in conversion,” she says. “People end up being fanatics.”

She sips her coffee and says that she believes there is a parallel between the way that some Jews respond to the Palestinians and the way some Germans responded to the Nazis. She never asked her grandmother about the war, she says, because she loved her too much.

“I was worried I would get hurt by information I didn’t want to know,” she says. “Sometimes I feel that a lot of Israelis live that way. It is better not to ask questions, and not be hurt, and so you don’t have to look at yourself or your family or your nation. And you can live with the illusion of who is good and who is bad.”

She says she was eight years old when she first heard of a Jew. “I heard a boy next door call another boy a ‘stupid Jew’,” she says. “I asked my mother, ‘What is a Jew, and is it something bad?’”

When she learned about the Holocaust, it literally made her retch. “I was horrified by what Germans did to Jews,” she says. “I was physically disgusted. And I was totally disgusted by even my own Germanness.”

It is strange to hear things like this over coffee in a clean apartment in the Middle East. “I didn’t want to be German,” she says. “And because this entered my mind so early, it became as natural as brushing my teeth.”

So why did she convert? She grimaces. “It isn’t rational. We are talking about religion here.” But she says she ran away to Israel to convert when she was 25. And today, she berates herself for her immaturity in doing it.

She was shocked by the racism in Israel. Towards her? “Towards the Arabs,” she replies. “I felt that I was being told that to be a good Jew, you had to hate Arabs.” So she stands at West Bank checkpoints to observe the behaviour of Israeli soldiers towards Palestinians.

“It causes a lot of tension to come here and say the things that I say,” she says. So why does she say them? “Because it would be very inconsistent to have had so much criticism of Germans who were terrible cowards when it was still possible to say something, and then to come here and not speak up for justice.”

She is through with Israel. She says it is because of the triple whammy of otherness — German, leftwing, gay. A shrink would say that she came here to be wrong, I tell her. “Don’t think I haven’t thought about it in those terms myself,” she replies. “I had wanted to connect myself to a history I did not perceive as shameful. Now I am wondering if I will stay. I am more or less sure that I won’t. Sometimes I feel I am not built for it, that I am not strong enough for this country.”

She runs her hands through her hair briskly, and shakes her head. “Sometimes I feel that just by existing I am always wrong here. But I cannot live with personal attacks now. I cannot bear it.”

Later that day, I meet the man who brought me here to Israel, the man who started all this — the so-called Jewish Hitler. He is a professor at the Jewish studies faculty at one of the universities. I telephoned him, and to my surprise he answered.

How could I ask: “Are you a Hitler?” I told him I was writing a story about German converts to Judaism, and he said I could come over immediately. So I go to an apartment just around the corner from where the artist lives. It is a grimy white block, with a few scrubby bushes outside.

I walk upstairs and a woman with the headscarf of all married orthodox Jewish women answers the door. She doesn’t say anything, simply gestures for me to sit at a table in a room heaving with books. And then he comes in. Is this my Jewish Hitler?

He is incredibly tall and slim, in a blinding yellow shirt, very animated, and his accent — an odd pulp of German, English and Hebrew — seems to zoom out of him. He is holding two pieces of paper. One is a family tree; the other is a printout of an account of the life of Alois Hitler Junior — Adolf Hitler’s half-brother.

“I will tell you the whole story,” he says, “on the condition that you do not print my name”. He places the first piece of paper in front of me, points at names, and begins a strange, almost incomprehensible account of the lives of Germans who died more than a century ago.

At the end of each summary of a long finished life, he jabs his finger on the table and says, “OK?” It only becomes clear what he is doing when I follow the tree down to a name I know — Alois Hitler.

Alois Hitler had two sons who lived to maturity — Adolf (that Adolf) and Alois Junior. This half-brother of the Führer then produced an illegitimate son called Hans. “OK?” he says. “Hans married my grandmother Erna after she divorced my grandfather.”

He immediately states that he hates the Hitler branch of his family. He becomes agitated. “I have neither any blood nor DNA from Adolf and his family,” he insists. “I was not socialised by that family.” He met Hans only once.

The Hitlers came for tea when he was 12 years old. “Hans was a very nice man,” he says. “No passions, no brutality.” But Erna was thrilled to have married into the Hitler clan, and remained a Nazi until she died. “I didn’t know her,” he says of his grandmother. “She wasn’t part of my family.”

The professor explains that his mother severed all connections with the Hitlers. As a teenager she was beaten for refusing to go to Hitler Youth dances, and when she gave birth to the professor — an illegitimate child she conceived during an affair with a married man — her mother and stepfather disowned her. He was raised in a series of rented rooms, while the Hitlers lived well. After the war, his grandmother changed her name, but her beliefs remained.

He begins to tell me what happened to his mother during the war. She worked as a typist for the Wehrmacht in Poland and she saw dead Jews hanging in the town squares. “She was a girl in the war,” he says, “but I always appreciated that she told me the truth about it. We spoke frankly. I never heard that normal German lie you hear so often from that generation.”

His voice rises and he impersonates them with a fierce whine: “‘We didn’t know, we just did our duty.’” And he thumps the table. “My grandparents never understood what they had done,” he says. “My mother understood.”

When she came home after the Allied victory, she was denounced as a Nazi, and the Communists seized her flat. “She became one of those German ladies who cleared up after all the bombing.” He stomps to the kitchen and comes back, thrusting two silver spoons at me. “That is all that my mother brought home from the war. I keep them to honor her.”

It was a brutal childhood: he barely saw his father, and his mother beat him — one time so severely that she couldn’t go to work for three days because her fingers were too swollen to type. “She was a fighter,” he says. “It is not the nicest thing you can be.” Was she religious? He gives a deranged giggle. “She had the religion of herself,” he says.

His mother was entirely alone. “Nobody helped anybody at that time,” he says. His father had another family — a real family: “I saw my father very seldom and the times I saw him I was so proud to have a father that it was not the time to ask what he did in the war. He died when I was 19. So I never asked him what he did.”

But he does know his father was a major in the Wehrmacht. So, barring a miracle, he killed people for Hitler.

His journey towards Judaism was long. “It was not a sudden light from heaven that came down.” When he was a teenager he met a girl who was interested in Judaism, and he read Mein Kampf. “I was embarrassed when I read it,” he says. “How could people be so stupid as to elect a person who was writing things like this? It’s awful.”

He blinks at me. “I don’t think you can really understand how awful it is if you don’t read it in German. I put it away. But I keep it here.” Did he ever finish it? He scowls at me for the first and only time. “No.”

When the time came for him to be conscripted into the German army, he decided to take a theology degree, because he wanted to benefit from an ironic leftover from Nazism: Hitler promised the Pope in 1933 that he wouldn’t conscript priests, and the law has never been repealed. “I am a pacifist,” he says. “You raise up an army if you think you have to use it.”

As part of the degree, he was due to spend six weeks in Israel in the early 1970s. “I felt at home. I was no longer living in a conflict. I didn’t have to reject the older generation. And I thought I had met for the first time a nationality that at that point in history — today it is more problematic — still had good reasons to be proud of itself.” So he stayed.

We go out on to the balcony to smoke. He really enjoys his cigarette; I can see he is a pleasure-savouring man. He does not have the heaviness of the other converts, who all seemed crushed by an invisible burden.

Is it because he spoke to his mother about it all? I steel myself and ask: would he have become Jewish without the Holocaust? “I think not,” he says. “The sharp distinction between the generations that committed the crimes and the generation born after wouldn’t exist. Non-Germans hardly understand that a whole generation checked out our teachers and asked, ‘Where were you 20 years ago?’”

And then, to my surprise, he calls his son — his Israeli son — a fascist. “When I hear my own son speak — as I did last weekend — I sat like this,” and he does the Hitler salute. “Two of my sons are chauvinists and one of them is even partially racist. I can’t listen to fascistic discourse. I don’t suffer that.”

They talk about the Palestinians with contempt. “Each time I hear it is another time too much. If the Holocaust and the Third Reich have really somehow shaped me, I am a sworn democrat. I believe that democracy has to prove itself by keeping the rights of its minorities.”

I have been with this man for three hours, insistently asking why — why did you convert? Why? This stray branch of the Hitler family tree stares out at his dull suburban street at the heart of the Jewish state, puffs on his cigarette, and begins to talk about the images of the Holocaust that linger in his mind.

“I see that soldier trampling that child and in the end killing it, and I remember that kind of aggression. I remember the feeling of the child, too. I remember both. I could see my father or my grandfather really standing there.”

And as he says this, his shoulders seem to relax. He is giving me my answer. “And all I can say, Tanya,” he says from inside his little cloud of smoke, “is that since I came to Israel, that feeling isn’t there any more.”

The Sins of their Fathers — The Guardian reports how the children of Nazis now live in Israel as practicing Jews

Jewish Communists

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Jews have made a disproportionate contribution to the Left“Modern political history indicates a clear connection between being Jewish and being radical, Both as individual theorists and activists of the stature of Marx, Luxemburg, Trotsky and Emma Goldman, and as organized mass labour movements in, for example, revolutionary Russia and early 20th century Britain and the USA, Jews have made a disproportionate contribution to the Left.”

– Philip Mendes, THE NEW LEFT, THE JEWS AND THE VIETNAM WAR, 1965-1972, Lazare Press, North Caulfield, Victoria, Australia, pp 9-10, from information in Rechter, David. Beyond The Pale: Jewish Communism in Melbourne. Master of Arts Thesis, Department of History, University of Melbourne. 1986, p1; Beer, Max. 50 Years of International Socialism. 1976, pplO3-107; Beit-Haltahmi, Benjamin. Original Sins. Actions in the History of Zionism and Israel. Pluto Press. London. 1992, pp28-31, Jacobs, Jack. On Socialists and the Jewish Question after Marx. New York University Press. New York. 1992, p159; Wistrich, Robert, Revolutionary Jews From Marx To Trotsky.
Harrap. London. 1976, p1.

Jewishness Was International Communism — Vladimir Ilich Lenin“There the great world-progressive features of Jewish culture stand clearly revealed: its internationalism, its identification with the advanced movements of the epoch (the percentage of Jews in the democratic and proletarian movements is everywhere higher than the percentage of Jews among the population).”

– Lenin, Vladimir Ilich. “National Culture” in Lumer, Hyman. Lenin on the Jewish Question. International Publishers. New York. 1974, p107, via Philip Mendes, THE NEW LEFT, THE JEWS AND THE VIETNAM WAR, 1965-1972, Lazare Press, North Caulfield, Victoria, Australia, p 9.

Gavrilo Princeps, Jewish Inspired Anarchist
Who was the Anarchist Follower of Emma Goldman, Jewish Leader & Founder of the World Anarachist Movement

In Yugoslavia, the home of World War One, where Gavrilo Princeps who was a Jewish Inspired Anarchist suffering from fatal tuberculosis in Sarajevo shot the son of Archduke Ferdinand and plunged millions of white boys to their untimely deaths, a singular tyrant by the name of Marshal Tito ruled with an iron fist.

–Frank Weltner, The Enslavement of Mankind, The Marshal Tito Gambit, An intelligent and inquisitive excursion into the history and philosophy of this world’s mostly unwritten past. Internet free edition.

The Leadership of the Working Parties
and The Communist Internationale
Were Mostly Jews

“In many countries, in Russia and Rumania for instance, but above all in Hungary and in Poland. the leadership of the working-class parties (the Russian Social Revolutionary Party excepted) is almost exclusively in the hands or Jews, as is plainly apparent from an extermination of the personality of the delegates to the international congresses”.

– Philip Mendes, THE NEW LEFT, THE JEWS AND THE VIETNAM WAR, 1965-1972, Lazare Press, North Caulfield, Victoria, Australia, p 9, from information found in Michels, Robert. Political Parties. A Sociological Study of the Oligarchical Tendencies of Modem Democracy. The Free Press. New York. 1962, p 247.


Jewish Communists
Many thanks for this list of Jewish communists which was compiled by
Michael A. Hoffman II

V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator.Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander of the Soviet Red Army.

Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet Secret Police. S

olomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister.

Maxim Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister.

Yuri Andropov: director, Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.

Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the massacre of the Czar’s family-women and children-in the town named after Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of the murderer).

Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death squad which carried out Sverdlov’s order for the murder of the Czar’s family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar’s daughters. The Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish sentiment.

Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich (pictured at left): chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior. Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed, “Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts.” (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).

Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin’s mistress; sister of Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov.

Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.

Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize, wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).

Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.

Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.

Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.

Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor, supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White Sea-Baltic Canal.

M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police.

Slutsky and Shpiegelglas: commanders, Soviet Secret Police.

Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret Police.

Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army; officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and peasants in Spain.

Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.

Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army.

Yakov (“Yankel”) Kreiser: general, Soviet Red Army.

Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.

David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.

Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army.

Mikhail Chazkelevich: general, Soviet Red Army.

Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army.

Arseni Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army.

Haim Fomin, commander of Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).

Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife “insurance policy” extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev and Leonoid Brezhnev.

Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein’s Bezhin Meadow).

KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier Julius Rosenwald.

Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda and disseminator of anti-German hate material dating from the 1930s. Ehrenburg instigated the Soviet Red Army rape and murder of German civilians. Referring to German women, Ehrenburg gloated to the advancing Red Army troops, “that blonde hag is in for a bad time.”

In a leaflet addressed to Soviet troops, Ehrenburg wrote: “…the Germans are not human beings…nothing gives us so much joy as German corpses.”(Anatol Goldberg, Ilya Ehrenburg, p. 197). Goldberg concedes that Ehrenburg, “…had always disliked the Germans…now that there was a war on he turned his old prejudice into an asset.”(Ibid., p. 193).
Another publication distributed to the Red Army, this time as the soldiers approached Danzig, was described by a historian: “Millions of leaflets were air-dropped on the troops with a message composed by the propagandist Ilya Ehrenburg and signed by Stalin: ‘Soldiers of the Red Army! Kill the Germans! Kill all Germans! Kill! Kill! Kill!” (Christopher Duffy, Red Storm on the Reich).
The Soviet leadership acknowledged that Ehrenburg sought the extermination of the entire German people (cf. Pravda, April 14, 1945. [Pravda was also published in a Yiddish edition, Einikeyt). Ehrenburg won the Order of Lenin and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem 'Holocaust' Museum.

Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda.

Soviet film propagandists:

Mark Donsky,

Leonid Lukov, Y

uli Reisman,

Vasily Grossman,

Yevgeny Gabrilovich,

Boris Volchok

and Lillian Hellman (old movies written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).

Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945. Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin's top Tass photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot displayed on one of the Soviet soldier's wrists was removed in the negative and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972. His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco. N.Y. Times writer Vicki Goldberg exulted in the raising of the blood-drenched Soviet flag, emblem of the slaughter of millions of peasants and Christians; describing it as, "...a national (and worldwide) symbol of triumph, justice and revenge." (Jan. 31, 1997, p. B-26).

Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee (JAC): new form of the Bolshevik YEVKOM, Stalin's recruiting conduit for funding money, supplies and political influence for Soviet Russia from world Jewry as well as the dissemination of gas chamber atrocity propaganda (cf. The Black Book).

Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin's chief theorist.

Samuel Agursky: commissar.

Karl Radek: member, Central Committee.

Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.

A.A. Yoffe: commissar.

David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin.

Lev Grigorievich Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin's enemies.

Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev): member of the Central Committee.

Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer: commissar, Soviet Secret Police.

Abraham Sutskever: Soviet terrorist-partisan.

Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of three Stalin Prizes.

Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.

Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later Stalin's chief terrorist in the Crimea.

Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin.

Henrykas Zimanas: leader of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.

Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist People's Army. Tito's top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People's Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.

In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police; the Politboro commander Jacob Berman (pictured at right) and commissars Minc, Specht (Olszewski) and Spychalski. These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.

According to Jewish researcher John Sack, "In 1945 many Poles felt (and not without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security...the chief of the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department heads were Jews." Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones like General Romkowski, Colonel Rozanski, Capt. Studencki and Lt. Jurkowski. (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6. Sack in this article also refutes some shoddy research performed by Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, author of Hitler's Willing Executioners, who, in the double standard typical of the Jewish mentality, refuses to accept the proven fact that Jews ran the Polish Communist secret police even as Goldhagen asserts the racist myth that the entire German nation was guilty of genocide. Sack does a good job of proving Goldhagen wrong about Poland).

In Poland, "...a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930, at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee. Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more vigorously than any other Polish party...Jewish Communists reached their apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that abhorred anti-Semitism." (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov. 5, 1992, p. 16).
Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never raised. Instead, a minor attack on Jews by Polish peasants enraged at the role of Jews in Communist terror, which occurred in July, 1946 at Kielce and which has come to be called the "Kielce pogrom" will be the centerpiece of the "discussion. " The motivation for the attack is not usually mentioned. Rather, the Catholic peasantry are painted in terms of "fiendish bigots" whose "blind, irrational hate" for the "poor, persecuted Jews" resulted in "yet another martyrdom of God's Chosen."

But the Catholic Primate of Poland at the time, Cardinal Hlond, a brave prelate in a stalwart tradition of Christian resistance to Jewish tyranny in Poland, so different from the traitorous philo-Judaism of the current Pontiff, stated that the attack in Kielce occurred because of resentment 'due to the Jews who today occupy leading positions in Poland's (Communist) government and endeavor to introduce a governmental structure that the majority of Poles do not wish to have." (Ibid., Kirshner).

As Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University observes, "The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most powerful men in the country-Berman and Minc-were both Jewish as was the dreaded security official Rozanski." (N.Y. Review of Books, Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).

With this record it is interesting to note that the Polish occupant of the papacy, John Paul II, consistently lent his prestige and his presence to canonizations and commemorations of politically correct victims of the Nazis. Nowhere did this Pope breath a word about the openly Jewish, Communist massacres of Polish Catholics, Spanish Catholics, Croatian Catholics, Lithuanian Catholics-he was too busy, intoning the Shoah, referring to the heirs of the Pharisees as "our Elder Brothers in the Faith" giving official recognition to an Israeli state which even many orthodox, Haredi rabbis regard as a blasphemous and abominable entity, and attacking the German people as "the image of the beast."

Solomon Morel (pictured at left): commandant of a post-war Communist concentration camp for Germans in Poland. Stalin deliberately put Jews in charge of such camps. Morel tortured and murdered thousands of Germans, sometimes with his bare hands (cf. "The Wrath of Solomon," Village Voice, March 30, 1993 and John Sack, An Eye for an Eye). Morel is comfortably esconsed in Tel Aviv. German survivors of Morel's camp have demanded he be tried as a war criminal, but for the Establishment media and the phony, partisan, "human rights" groups, bringing Morel to justice is simply a non-issue. After all, he murdered helpless Germans, so what's the problem?

Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American communist party.

Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and Stalin, son of Julius.

Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic bomb.

Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin.

Ruth Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs.

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin.

Morris Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs.

Markus Wolf: chief of German Communist Stasi Secret Police.

Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin.

David Dubinsky:Stalin's ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment Workers Union.

Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist propagandist.

Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party.

Victor Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.

Mark Zborowski: "...considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to have been the most fearsome...(Soviet) spy of all time" (Stephen Schwartz, Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris. Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937. In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. "The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski and Monsieur Etienne" by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec. 1992).

On Oct. 16, 1948, 50,000 Jewish communists turned out in Moscow's Red Square to welcome the first Israeli delegation to Moscow. Stalin supported Zionism's 1947 Palestine partition plan, gave crucial recognition to the newly-created state of Israel and voted for Israel's admission to the United Nations.

In 1951 communist and Marxist parties had twenty-three seats in the Israeli Knesset. The kibbutz system was the most powerful movement in the country and the most powerful kibbutz leaders were nearly all Marxists. The biggest Israeli holiday was May Day, celebrated with rallies, marches, red banners and red songs.

As recently as 1987 the Israelis were providing the KGB with American intelligence secrets (cf. UPI dispatch by Richard Sale, Dec. 13, 1987 and The City Paper [Washington, DC], Jan. 15, 1988). Jonathan Jay Pollard was part of one such spy ring. British traitor and Communist spy Kim Philby was assisted in obtaining safe haven in the Soviet Union by the Israeli Mossad (cf. Sunday Telegraph [England], April 16, 1989). This was most appropriate since Philby’s KGB handler in Moscow was also Jewish.

Romania’s communist regime received favorable trade deals from the U.S. for years due to Israeli pressure on Congress in its behalf (N.Y. Times, Jan. 18, 1992, p. 23). The notion that the Zionist Jewish movement was anti-communist is a fallacy. The truth is more complex. There was a left wing and a right wing within Zionism. The rightists, like the terrorists Jabotinsky and Stern, took a fascist approach. Leftist Zionists like David “I am a Bolshevik” Ben-Gurion admired the Soviet model of Jewish power and sought to incorporate it as the political economy of the Israeli state.

“National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, “one of its foremost intellectuals”( London Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).

Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC’s terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. (“Joe Slovo,” Jewish Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).

Slovo had been the ” planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks, including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many others… Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday…Slovo is a dedicated Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed…Slovo disputes little of his image as ‘the Communist mastermind’ behind the ANC’s armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa’s whites are both a measure of the ANC’s growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening what he believes will be its ultimate victory. ‘Revolutionary violence has created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for the ANC its leading position,’ Slovo said.” (“Rebel Strategist Seeks to End Apartheid,” L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela’s ANC took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.

Nelson Mandela and Joe Slovo give the clenched fist salute in front of the blood-drenched Hammer and Sickle flag of Jewish Bolshevism.

Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC, which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.

Mandela was hailed as a great statesman by Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II in her 1996 Christmas message to the realm.
When we look at these gruesome personalities, who are only the tip of the Jewish iceberg that was Soviet Communism and who were responsible for the deaths of upwards of thirty million people; when we realize how little is written or filmed about their crimes, we begin to realize that the exclusive focus on the crimes of the Germans, real and imagined, is a function of propaganda.

If the facts about the Jewish Communist holocaust against the peasants and Christians of Russia and Eastern Europe were given massive publicity, the supposed “special evil” of the Germans would stand exposed as a racist fraud.

German actions during World War Two must be viewed in a vacuum in order for the New World Order to advance its covert objective of Jewish supremacy.

When Nazi actions are placed within the context of Jewish Communism’s abominable crimes against the Christian people of Russia and Eastern Europe, the public will begin to understand that Hitler and the Nazis were a reaction, however unbalanced and excessive, to the Jewish Communist genocide against millions of Christians and peasants in the East.
This is why the crucial facts about Jewish Communism must never be documented in Hollywood films, discussed in university courses or pictured in contemporary news magazines. This is why Malcolm Muggeridge’s book, an eyewitness account of the Jewish Communist holocaust against Christians, Winter in Moscow, has been tightly suppressed.

In the Sunday Telegraph (London, England: Nov. 18, 1990) the question is asked, “Why then has it (Winter in Moscow) never been republished? The answer may lie in Muggeridge’s handling of what was then called the ‘Jewish question.’…Winter in Moscow is acutely concerned with Jews…It was of course the case that a very disproportionate number of the early Bolsheviks were Jews and thus of commissars and apparatchiki…”

The Campaign for Radical Truth in History’s documentation of these forbidden facts constitutes the chief motivation for the suppression attempts of such Stalinist censorship groups as the A.D.L. and Simon Wiesenthal Center. Both of these organizations would, if they could, have this writer jailed for publishing the documentation herein in Germany, France, or Austria. They regularly supply “intelligence files” to those governments on pro-Christian and pro-German writers. In 1995 the ADL sought to assist the prosecution of 69 year old American writer Hans Schmidt who was imprisoned in Germany for publishing a newsletter in Florida. These Jewish censors would like to have similar laws passed worldwide, resulting in the jailing of more writers and researchers who will not toe the party line or worship the Golden Calf.

To give the other side of history, the revisionist side-to give voice to the voiceless millions of dead victims of Jewish Communism-is regarded as “hateful” by the vain Zionists who demand for themselves the right to vomit forth a daily barrage of sewage upon the sacred memory of our grandparents and ancestors.

To defend against the dishonoring of our heritage and our ancestors, is surely not hate; it is the right of self-defense against psychological warfare.
Michael A. Hoffman II
P.O. Box 849
Coeur d’Alene
Idaho 83816 U.S.A.

Jewish Communists

Al Jazeera Caves-in to Israel: truly unethical

Posted in Outing Liars with tags , , on August 10, 2008 by The 800 Pound Gorilla

Al-Jazeera Arabic

Al-Jazeera Arabic

Al Jazeera Arabic television station was forced to apologize for the broadcast in honour of a Lebanese prisoner released by Israel. the broadcast was not anything out of the ordinary, a two part interview with the Samir Qantar, who spent 29 years in an Israeli jail. Mr. Qantar mentioned how they would try and break him for almost 30 years and with no results, he also spoke of the methods used by soldiers in prisons not just torture but drugs as well. he said they were a bunch of cowards and they are so easy to defeat because they are cowards.
He also said that he remained with (Sharaf) honor/dignity till the last moment, when the Israeli Prison officer asked them to be released he gave them silly baby blue outfits to ware as they were being transferred. Qantar refused to ware the outfit even if it means they don’t go, “I have waited 30 years, I can wait 30 more to leave with my dignity ” Qantar also criticized the Camp David agreement which was signed by Sadat and Begin and said it was a step that lead to the majority of the Mideast Conflict we have today because it legitimized the state of Israel


Samirr El Qantar

Samirr El Qantar

Al Jazeera says prisoner “party” breached code of ethics
REUTERS – Thu Aug 7, 2008 9:31am EDT

JERUSALEM, Aug 7 (Reuters) – Arabic television station Al Jazeera said on Thursday a July broadcast in honour of a Lebanese prisoner freed by Israel violated its code of ethics.

Israel said on Wednesday it would no longer assist the Qatar-based network because of the July 19 birthday party broadcast for Samir Qantar, who spent 29 years in an Israeli jail for a 1979 attack in which five Israelis were killed.

The network said in a statement that its editorial board concluded that the broadcast “violated Al Jazeera’s Code of Ethics”. The network said it “regards these violations as very serious and will assess what action is necessary”.

The Al Jazeera show featured Qantar using a scimitar, a traditional Arab sword, to slice a cake with his picture on it. The broadcast included a fireworks display and Arabic music.

Qantar was among five Lebanese guerrillas freed last month as part of a prisoner swap between Israel and Hezbollah.

Daniel Seaman, the head of Israel’s Government Press Office, said he was encouraged by Al Jazeera’s decision to conduct an internal review but said his office would await the outcome before deciding whether to change policy.

“This is a fundamental question as to where Al Jazeera stands. Does it stand with the extremists or is it a professional media organisation?” Seaman said.

“We are not looking for an apology … but for a serious investigation which will be brought to our attention in a professional way,” he said.

The Government Press Office said on Wednesday that it would no longer expedite Al Jazeera’s applications for entry visas and work permits necessary to obtain press credentials in Israel.

Israeli officials have often accused Al Jazeera, which has bureaux in Jerusalem and the Palestinian territories, of biased reporting of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, a charge the network has denied. (Reporting by Avida Landau, editing by Tim Pearce)


VIDEO / Al-Jazeera admits to ‘unethical’ behavior over Kuntar party
Haaretz  - 17:00 07/08/2008

By Yoav Stern, Haaretz Correspondent

The Al Jazeera television station admitted Wednesday that its coverage of Israel’s release of convicted Lebanese terrorist Samir Kuntar violated the station’s own code of ethics. The admission came in response to a threat by Israel’s Government Press Office to boycott the satellite channel unless it apologized.

In an official letter, a copy of which was obtained by Haaretz, Al Jazeera’s director general, Khanfar Wadah, wrote that “elements of the program” broadcast in Kuntar’s honor on the night of Saturday, July 19, “violated [the station's] Code of Ethics,” and he “regards these violations as very serious.”

He also said he had ordered the channel’s programming director to take steps to ensure that such an incident does not recur.
Al-Jazeera VIDEO

The boycott threat was issued by the director of the GPO, Danny Seaman, in response to a program broadcast from Lebanon that covered the welcome-home festivities for Kuntar. In it, the head of Al Jazeera’s Beirut office, Ghassan bin Jiddo, heaped praises on Kuntar, for instance by calling him a “pan-Arab hero.”

Kuntar was convicted of the murder of four Israelis, including two children, during a terrorist attack in Nahariya in 1979. He was released last month as part of a deal with Hezbollah. In exchange, Israel received the bodies of kidnapped soldiers Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev.

Bin Jiddo is known to be sympathetic to Hezbollah, and he was even awarded Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah’s first interview of the Second Lebanon War. A few weeks ago, he was interviewed on a Syrian television station and said that he would never agree to interview Israelis, even though he knows that Al Jazeera’s official policy is to interview Israelis.

This is not the first time Israel has protested Al Jazeera’s coverage, but for its protests to result in an apology is unusual.


Al Jazeera admits it violated its code of ethics

Al JazeeraArabic television station (Al Jazeera) said on Thursday last month’s broadcast in honour of a Lebanese prisoner released by Israel violated its code of ethics. Israel said on Wednesday it would no longer assist the Qatar-based network because of the July 19 party broadcast for Samir Qantar, who spent 29 years in an Israeli jail for a 1979 attack in which five Israelis were killed.

The Arabic network said in a statement that its editorial board concluded that the broadcast “violated Al Jazeera’s Code of Ethics”. According to the network, it “regards these violations as very serious and will assess what action is necessary”.

The Al Jazeera show featured Qantar using a scimitar, a traditional Arab sword, to slice a cake with his picture on it. The broadcast included a fireworks display and Arabic music.

According to Reuters, Daniel Seaman, the head of Israel’s Government Press Office, said he was encouraged by Al Jazeera’s decision to conduct an internal review but said his office would await the outcome before deciding whether to change policy. “This is a fundamental question as to where Al Jazeera stands. Does it stand with the extremists or is it a professional media organisation?” Seaman said.
© 2008 Al Bawaba (www.albawaba.com)


Al-Jazeera Admits to Ethical Violation in Coverage

08/08/2008

Tel Aviv, Asharq Al-Awsat – Al-Jazeera television station has admitted to “unethical” behavior in its coverage of the release of convicted Hezbollah terrorist, Samir Kuntar, from an Israeli prison following a prisoner exchange deal with the Lebanese militant group.

The Arabic news channel’s public acknowledgement came as a response to an avalanche of Israeli criticism and a threat issued by the Government Press Office (GPO) to boycott Al-Jazeera news channel as a response to the program it aired last month. The controversial program broadcasted footage of the homecoming celebration and birthday party held for Kuntar upon his return in which he was hailed a “pan-Arab hero”.

Wadah Khanfar, Director General of Al-Jazeera issued an official letter in which he wrote that “elements of the program [of the celebration last 19 July] violated [the station’s] Code of Ethics.” Khanfar added that he “regards these violations as very serious,” moreover stating that he had taken steps to ensure that the incident does not recur.

Daniel Seaman, head of the GPO, which issues press certification to foreign and local journalists, said that he had summoned Walid al Omary, the head of Al-Jazeera television, to his office on Wednesday to see “what attitude” the channel was adopting towards the incident. Al-Jazeera satellite channel has a Jerusalem-based bureau. The GPO often intercedes when journalists complain of problems related to Israeli bureaucracy.

Although he later praised Al-Jazeera staff for its professionalism, Seaman said that the statement did not go far enough. “It’s not what I’m looking for, he said, “I don’t want an apology,” and added that the GPO would not revoke the channel’s press credentials but would no longer go out of its way to extend courtesy services, including providing assistance in obtaining speedy visas for the Arabic news channel’s employees.

Seaman stated that he wanted the news channel to decide whether it wanted to be a mouthpiece for the Arab world or a professional media outlet and “they will be treated accordingly,” he said.

Samir Kuntar was convicted of the murder of four Israelis, including two children, following a terrorist attack in Nahariya in 1979. In the controversial program aired by Al-Jazeera, Kuntar is seen dressed in army fatigues as he is welcomed into a garden with an Arabic music band, sparklers and a huge cake decorated with pictures of the released convict.

Kuntar is seen praising his picture with Hezbollah Secretary-General, Hassan Nasrallah, and said, “This is the most beautiful picture – with Hassan Nasrallah. There cannot be anything more beautiful – me and the Secretary-General – the most beautiful picture of me ever taken.”*

Kuntar then slices the cake with a sword, which the show’s host hails as “the sword of Arabs”. As he begins to cut the cake, the TV anchor can be heard saying, “Don’t cut the picture, cut on the side.”

* Translation provided by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI).

Al Jazeera Caves-in to Isaerl: truly unethical

Freemasonry is Kabbalah

Posted in Original Research with tags , , , , , , , on August 8, 2008 by The 800 Pound Gorilla

freemasonry star

freemasonry square and compass form a Star

The word Kabbalah comes from the Hebrew קַבָּלָה, meaning “to receive”. According to Ben-Yehudah’s Hebrew-English Dictionary, in context it is a received body of knowledge, passed down orally, which serves as an exegesis of the Hebrew Scriptures, particularly the Torah or Pentateuch. A direct experience of God is central to the ideas of Kabbalah.
Albert Mackey’s Encyclopedia of Freemasonry devotes almost three pages to the Kabbalah, noting “It has sometimes been used in an enlarged sense, as comprehending all the explanations, maxims, and ceremonies which have been traditionally handed down to the Jews; but in that more limited acceptation, in which it is intimately connected with the symbolic science of Freemasonry, the Cabala may be defined to be a system of philosophy which embraces certain mystical interpretations of Scripture, and metaphysical and spiritual beings.”
Johannes Buxtorf in his book titled “Lexicon Hebraicum et Chaldaicum*censored*brevi Lexico Rabbinico Philosophico”(Lexicon of the Talmud) defines the Kabbalah to be “a secret science, which treats in a mystical and enigmatical manner of things divine, angelical, theological, celestial, and metaphysical; the subjects being enveloped in striking symbols and secret modes of teaching. Much use is made of it in the advanced degrees, and entire Rites have been constructed on its principles. Hence it demands a place in any general work on Freemasonry.”

Dollar Bill Practical Kabbalah has its ancient roots in the “Thirteen Enochian Keys” of Enoch son of Qain, along with a highly eclectic admixture of material taken from Egyptian, Mesopotamian, and other non-Hebrew sources. The “Thirteen Enochian Keys” of Enoch son of Qain are reflected in such works as The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage, the Greater and Lesser Keys of Solomon, and mediaeval grimoires such as the Armadel, Goetia/Lemegeton, etc. The primary text of the mystical Kabbalah that appears to occupy a central place of importance in the hermetic Kabbalah is the Sefer Yetzirah (Book of Formation). The two most prominent contemporary schools of Practical or Hermetic Kabbalah are the Golden Dawn and the Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.).

The bulk of the mainstream orthodox Jewish Kabbalists focus primarily on the Sefer HaZohar (Book of Splendor) and the Etz HaChayyim (Tree of Life). They engage in practices of spiritual refinement (avodah) and meditation (devekut, “cleaving to God”) gleaned from the writings left by Abraham Abulafia, Azriel of Gerona (disciple of Yitza’aq the Blind), Chayyim Vital (recorder of the teachings of Yitza’aq Luria), Dov Baer (Mezhirecher Maggid and successor to Israel ben Eliezer), Nachman of Bretzlav, and others. These practices include a variety of visualization techniques, breathing exercises, movements coordinated with the permutation and combination of Hebrew letters, mantric intonation of sacred phrases, meditative prayer, and chanting devotional songs.
The Theoretical Kabbalah is divided into the Dogmatic, which is a summary of rabbinical theosophy and philosophy, and the Literal, which teaches a mystical mode of explaining sacred things by assigning numerical values to the letters of words. The Literal Cabala — divided into Gematria, Notaricon, and Temura — was made use of in the writing of what Mackey termed the “Advanced” degrees of Freemasonry. These more properly should be termed the additional degrees of concordant masonic bodies. The Kabbalah plays no role in regular Craft Freemasonry.


History of the Kabbalah

kabbalah

kabbalah

After the destruction of the Second Temple of Jerusalem (70 CE), many Jews who relocated to Egypt were influenced by the Alexandrian Pythagoreans. Jewish leaders and intellectuals such as Artapanos, Philon the Alexandrian, the historian Josephus Flavius, the Hasmoneans, Johanan Hurcanus, Alexander Jannean, Hanoch, Hillel, Johanan ben-Zakkai, and others were central figures of this spiritual-scientific development. The esoteric Jewish theosophy, or religious mystic philosophy, developed from about this time. In the absence of a central spiritual leadership, under foreign and hostile rule, some regional Jewish schools developed into sects such as the Essenes, Nazarenes, Pharisees, and Sadducees. The Jewish Kabbalah reached its peak during the twelfth and thirteenth centuries, arguably responsible for the development of both science and mysticism in Europe. In the eleventh and twelfth centuries the greatest contributions to science were made by Jewish scholars, especially in Spain. Names known from religious sources as “Rabbis” and “Kabbalists”, are known in history books of mathematics and science as outstanding inventors and developers.
A distinctly Christian Cabala may be said to have started with the work of Ramon Lull (1232-1317) during a period of religious tolerance in Spain. Starting in the late fifteenth century CE, a movement arose among some Jewish converts to Christianity in Spain to ascribe a distinctly Christian context to the hidden meanings of Kabbalistic doctrines. This movement gained momentum from speculation among Florentine Platonists that the Kabbalah contained a lost revelation that explains the secrets of the Catholic faith. This cross-pollination led to the emergence of a distinctly Christian Cabala founded by Giovanni Pico della Mirandola (1463-1494). Pico saw in the Cabala a link to the Greek philosophers as well as a proof of the divinity of Jesus Christ. Pico’s writings, and subsequently those of John Reuchlin (1455-1522), created an interest that spread throughout the intellectual European community.
In the sixteenth century, the appearance of Kabbalistic texts in Latin translation enhanced attempts to draw further parallels between esoteric Jewish doctrines and Christianity. Guillaume Postel translated and published the Zohar and Sefer Yetzirah into Latin even before they were published in Hebrew. Latin texts in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries were influential in standardizing “Cabala” as the spelling commonly associated with the Christian perspective on Kabbalistic teachings. In the seventeenth century, the centre of Christian Cabala study moved to England and Germany, where its status was boosted by the theosophical writings of Jacob Boehme and the compendium of Christian Knorr von Rosenroth. Von Rosenroth and Athanasius Kirchner extrapolated the Cabalistic allusion of Adam Kadmon to be a reference to Jesus as the primordial man in Christian theology. In the final phase in the development of the Christian Cabala in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, it became permeated with alchemical symbolism and conjoined with the emerging doctrines of theosophy and rosicrucianism. Those who believe Freemasonry’s roots are found in rosicrucian and hermetic teachings will therefore see the influence of the Kabbalah in its development.


    Claims and accusations or is it reality?

There are two different, perspectives about the Kabbalistic roots for Freemasonry. The first being religious people condemning Freemasonry, Judaism, and the Kabbalah as being anti-Christian and often equate the whole with satanism. “Freemasonry and the New World Order are Nazism revived.” ; “…that one key ritual in freemasonry involves drinking from human skulls….” ; and “Freemasonry is the instrument created to carry out this return to paganism.”
Albert Pike’s Morals and Dogma: “all the Masonic associations owe to it their Secrets and their Symbols.” and claim that Freemasonry is divided into two branches. “There is the branch of the Scottish Rite and the branch of the Shriners. Scottish Freemasonry is the Christian branch while the Shriners are actually the Islamic branch.”
The second is composed of Freemasons and kabbalists who promote the theory of Freemasonry’s link to the Kabbalah. They are entitled to their opinions, but it must be stressed that they do not speak for Freemasonry. They are only expressing their opinions. They view the study of both as enhancing their relationship with God. .

Olmert Shaking hands with Aabbas

Olmert Shaking hands with Aabbas

    Interesting Quotes from Kabbalah Sources

The Following is a list of quotes from various Kabbalah based books. They are listed so you can get a “feel” for its mystical perspective and gain insight into some of the attitudes and ideas that people learn from studying Kabbalah.

1. “… the Zohar suggests that souls are “patterned” like bodies. It says: ‘as the body is formed in this world from the combination of four elements, the spirit is formed in the garden [of Eden] from the combination of the four winds. The spirit is enveloped there in the impress of the body’s shape. If it were not for the four winds, which are the heirs of the garden, the spirit would not have been clothed (given shape) at all.” (Cooper, David A., God is a Verb. New York, New York: Riverhead Brooks, 1997, p. 113, brackets are in the original)

2. “…we are connected via our souls to the source of creation, and we can transform the flow of creation.” (Cooper, David A., God is a Verb. New York, New York: Riverhead Brooks, 1997, p. 121.)

3. “Cabalists teaches at the moon is the mystical vessel in which souls are gathered before they are released to the world. The moon in Kabbalah represents receptivity… the mystical implication is that souls are influenced by the phase of the moon when they become associated with bodies, each having different levels of expansiveness or contracted this… we would say that this describes why some of us are more extroverted while others are more introverted…”(Cooper, David A., God is a Verb. New York, New York: Riverhead Brooks, 1997, p. 113, 128.

4. “The cabalists teach that everything we do stirs up a corresponding energy in other realms of reality. Actions, words, or thoughts set up reverberations in the universe.” (Cooper, David A., God is a Verb. New York, New York: Riverhead Brooks, 1997, p. 132.)

5. “In physical reality, every move we make is dependent upon electromagnetic energy. In the metaphysical realm, rather than call this energy electromagnetic, we could call it angelic- demonic. Every move they make is supported by an angel or demon. Moreover, everything we do creates new angels and demons… the metaphysical magnets associated with the God realms are called angels, and those with the satanic realms are called demons.” (Cooper, David A., God is a Verb. New York, New York: Riverhead Brooks, 1997, p. 134.)

6. “From noon until midnight, the sun appears to be declining, which means that the power of loving kindness is waning. When the sun reaches its lowest ebb, the time in which the energy of darkness is strongest, accusing angels have their greatest power. The Kabbalist says that this point is the darkest of the night, the moment when restriction and judgment are at their full power. If we were abandoned in the mystical midnight of creation, we would disappear.” (Cooper, David A., God is a Verb. New York, New York: Riverhead Brooks, 1997, p. 142.)

7. “Angelic and demonic energies are not independent and self-sufficient, but are parts of the system of the universal ebb and flow.” (Cooper, David A., God is a Verb. New York, New York: Riverhead Brooks, 1997, p. 143.)

8. “When we call upon angels to be with us, we And two on infinite resource of goodwill. It is as if we plugged into the magnetic core of the earth to keep ourselves centered. Archangels represent the God-center of the universe they draw nourishment from Its infinite supply.” (Cooper, David A., God is a Verb. New York, New York: Riverhead Brooks, 1997, p. 144.)

9. “the lower, earthly human being and the upper, mystical human being, in which the Godhead is manifested as shape, belong together and are unthinkable without one another.” (secret doctrine, p. 66)

10. “This manual [of Kabbalah] will prepare one to hear the words of G-d, see authentic visions, smell the Supernal beauty, touch his/her Grace, and taste the delights of Eden.” http://home.utah.edu/~rfs4/jkm.htm

11. “As Rabbi Levi Yitzhak of Berdicheve said, ‘At every instant, all universes received existence and sustenance from God. It is human beings, however, who motivate this sustenance and transmit it to all worlds. When a person nullifies the sense of self completely and thereby attaches Thought to Nothingness, then a new sustenance flows to all universes.” (Cooper, David A., God is a Verb. New York, New York: Riverhead Brooks, 1997, p. 224.)

12. “our day-to-day actions, words, and thoughts continuously affect our sense of harmony with the universe.” (God is a verb, p 248)

13. “…there are five levels of the soul. The higher levels, neshama, chayah, and yehida, function in a way that they cannot be directly affected by what a person does to his or her consciousness. however, they are indirectly affected by the states of the nefesh and ruach. after death, the higher levels of the soul will return to their home “regions,” but they must await the redemption of the nefesh before finally resting in their natural state. If the nefesh does not get redeemed, the ruach cannot be “crown” in the lower Garden of Eden. (God is a verb, p. 262)

14. “The teachings of reincarnation are of value when we have nowhere else to turn in the tragedy of the death.” (God is a verb, p. 266)


The Zohar

The Zohar is one of the most important texts, if not the most important in Kabbalah. The Zohar is not a single book. Instead it is allegedly a 2nd century A.D. collection of Aramaic writings from various Kabbalists that is a commentary on the Torah: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy with some commentary on the song of songs, also known as the song of Solomon. Its interpretations of the Torah are highly mystical and subjective and often in contradiction to what the Torah reveals. it seeks to explain as well as the video the relationship between God and man. But, the book is generally believed to have been authored by a 13th Century Jewish mystic named Moses De Leon (1250-1305) partly because it was never mentioned in the Talmud (a collection of commentaries used to explain the the oral law concerning the first five books of the Old Testament). Additions were added to the Zohar in the 14th century. The Zohar is also said to have special powers which followers can benefit from by running a finger over the text as if reading Braille.1 Of course, Christians reject such a claim and recognized the Zohar as a non-biblical, mystical piece of literature often in contradiction to the Bible. Please consider this quote.

“The Zohar discusses the universe, as a whole, in far broader terms than merely the physical universe. Indeed, the physical universe, as vast as it may be, is dwarfed in comparison with the mystical universe that embraces angelic and demonic realms. Whereas the physical universe is measured in time and distance, the mystical universe is measured in terms of levels of awareness. These levels should not be viewed as separate boundaries, for awareness is a continuum.”

Notice the ambiguity and non-falsifiability of a the comments. How do you verify what is said about the mystical universe? You can’t. But that doesn’t stop the Zohar from saying even more about creation.

“The Zohar says,’ to create the world, It (Ein Sof, Infinite Nothingness) emanated a secret spark (awareness) from which emerged and radiated all light. The upper world was constituted of this light. Then a [different dimension of] light, a light without brightness (lower consciousness), was fashioned into the lower world. As it is composed of unilluminated light, the lower world is attracted to the upper world.”

Its scope of teaching seems to include predictions of the coming Messiah. Apparently, the Zohar predicted the return of the Messiah in 1648 which was fulfilled in Shabbetai Zvi from Smyrna in Asia Minor. He gathered many followers, so much so that the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire thought that he must be stopped. He captured Sabbettai and subsequently He converted to Islam. like other Donma Jews (the Donma Jewish Sect:Jewish converts who pretended to be Muslims and carried Turkish names and formed the “Committee of Union and Progress ”, also known as the “Young Turks”.) later on spawned Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, Founder of the Turkish Republic

Consider these representative quotes from the Zohar.

* “Zohar I 51b-52a: “the beings on high are all of the same illumination, being of celestial essence, whereas the beings below are of a different essence. They (the lower) are to this illumination (the higher) as the candle is to the flame….The light and the shadows are the only elements which form air and water…On leaving its source, the light divides into 75 channels directed toward the material world…Below these channels there are 375 trenches…These trenches are divided into 17 classes, of which each presents the shape of a chain-net…Such is the vision of this area of space which forms seven different colors. These seven colors constitute the supreme mystery…Seven other lights are divided into seven seas, which together amount to one giant sea. This last is the supreme sea where seven others are concentrated….” *

“This end of heaven is called Who. There is another below, called What. What distinguishes the two? The first, concealed one-called Who-can be questioned. Once a human being questions and searches, contemplating and knowing rung after rung to the very last rung – once one reaches there: What? What do you know? What have you contemplated? Or what have you searched? All this concealed, as before.” *

“When Concealed of all Concealed emerged on being revealed, it produced at first a single point, which ascended to become thought. within, it drew all drawings, grave to all and ravings, carving within the conceal the holy lamp a graving of one hidden design, only of holies, a deep structure emerging from fat, called Mi, Who, origin of structure. existent and nonexistent, deep and hidden, called by no name but Who. Seekng to be revealed, to be named, it garbed itself in a splendid, radiant garment and created (elleh), these. Elleh attained the name: these letters joined with those, culimnating in the name Elohim.”

William Cooper & his Death
in this short Clip Cooper emphasizes that the origins of all secret societies is Kabbalah.

Freemasonry is Kabbalah

Current Zionist Jewish Moroccan regime

Posted in Original Research with tags , , , on August 6, 2008 by The 800 Pound Gorilla

Ahmed Rami Faisal Qasim Moderates a heated discussion between Ahmed Rami founder of RadioIslam.org and Abdel Rafieaa ElGawahry (former President of the Federation of Morocco’s book, journalist and writer).

The toppic is supposed to be Human rights but Mr. Rami Emphasizes the control of the “Jews” of Morocco and King Mohammed VI’s Jewish Advisors, (André Azoulay Jewish-Moroccan senior Royal Advisor to King of Morocco and a member of the Royal Cabinet, a position he has held for 14 years) and How the King took a decision to return (Sarafati) not because he legitimate opposition leader, but because he is Jewish.

Current Moroccan regime Friday 6/4/2004

Last Updated: 12:27 AM timing Doha

Faisal QasimFaisal Qasim:

Sir distinguished viewers .. Do you missed one Moroccan artists when he described Morocco as a large waiting room or whether it struck the nail on the head?

– Do you bring a new era of Moroccan what awaits us in the waiting room ninth?

– Is there really pays to be optimistic that the new situation or amendments that are enshrined in the current system is not more than (Frills) cosmetic, and Magoo media Powdering the wool over the eyes?

– Will shifts in Morocco or that all Arab leaders appear enthusiastic and active desire for change at the outset? But it soon (back to the same old habits )?.

– Is it possible to turn the system in Morocco to a genuine constitutional monarchy, or that political transformations are nothing more than decor?

– What value of the Government if the current rotation in depth investigation of political will rather than the need for democracy?

–Is it not a result would be incorrect if the outset wrong?

– What verification on the ground?! Has anything changed substantially in the system or the state or government or even what happened just venting?

– But can be considered the release of some political prisoners, and allowing for some opponents to return to the country just a charity, not legislative action and political legalized?

– Why deal with Arab leaders, their mentality and charity donations and the awardees, as if a group of people slaves and beggars, working in private farms rulers?

– Is it possible for Morocco to the poor felt good, or is pulling the title (King of the poor) to the New Testament is also a propaganda campaign?

– Is Morocco’s poor need only to the type of Land, charity and solidarity fund charitable?

– Is this what needs millions of unemployed graduates from universities and workers?

– Reduce the pain reaches thousands of Moroccans to the horrors ride across the sea in the so-called death boats to search for a living? Then why this Drumming and Tooting to visit the new king?

– Isn’t north Moroccan an integral part of the national territory despite all the above, even if inconclusive (Hassan II) is accepted (Mohamed V), and were treated like pariah?

– But in return it not be unfair to judge the experiment (Mohammed VI) is in its first year?

– But all indications show that Morocco was on the verge of great transformations almost envied by all Arab states?

– But enough that the opposition reached the Moroccan government, while still oppose other Arab countries languishing and tortured in prison, hunted down in exile?

– Except that oversees Morocco Clean prisons totally political detainees, were allowed to return to the father of their opponents?

– But enough that there is a wonderful movement typical of human rights in Morocco, and to encourage minors?

– But enough that the New Testament is completely from the rest of the Arab regimes and the world (tertiary), which govern their countries Nehru and police dogs and Albesatir

– Footwear – military?

– Not to think impeachment (Driss Basri) Emperor or ministries historic event?

– This is not indicative of an atmosphere of openness and mitigate the grip of security?

– Did not less (Hassan II (when the government receives from his father: that he is not leaving the keys and locks intact? While the king to change the current locks itself?

– Only enough for the new enthusiasm, this popular rallying around the young king?

– Is not start the completion of political reforms, and hence economic and social reforms by all means a wise strategy?

– Only promotes political openness when the former path of economic and social calendar?

– But then we must take into account the problems of economic and social Morocco very deep, and need for a long time to resolve them, and the New Testament does not have a magic wand?

– Can not say a word in the light of the promising signs in Morocco that the sun rises Arabs from the West?

I pose questions on the air directly to each of Ahmed Rami (Moroccan officer exhibitions refugee in Sweden Abdel Rafieaa ElGawahry (former President of the Federation of Morocco’s book, journalist and writer).

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Faisal Qasim:

Ahmed Rami, but it can be said: that Morocco is on the road almost Ihsdh most Arab countries politically and non-political? With regard to Morocco first thing can be said that that should be changed for us, and in the Arab and Islamic world is the mentality .. Mentalities even citizens, because all existing regulations now exist, whether weak or vulnerable at the prevailing mentality and on the negative, and complacency, as I said in the introduction mentality of waiting, in fact, even democratic regimes in the west will become a dictatorship, if the peoples in the day One stopped the struggle for democracy, democracy is not really acquired and eternally, and therefore should be defending democracy daily cash, cash mentality every day .. Is a battle lasting as long as a human being, and all authorities and all the regimes and rulers in the Middle West or have a tendency to abuse of power and abuse of power and tyranny, only the resistance of peoples and the existence of peoples and peoples is the effectiveness of imposing democracy, and put in their rulers.

In Morocco – in fact – now .. In the current circumstances that all Moroccans were very like the new King, the new ruler, all Moroccans hardly follow him and love only one thing is that they pin hopes on him to change for the better future, all this admiration and popularity is an expression of hatred of the old regime ..

Abdel Rafieaa ElGawahryElGawahry (Interruption):

Excuse me, do you also commented on such hopes of His Majesty the King (Mohammed VI) love to hear your opinion?

Ahmed Rami:

Now with all Moroccans waited seven months ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

You are you.

Ahmed Rami:

But now reached a decision ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

I like to know your point of view.

Ahmed Rami:

Reached a resolution with myself, it is not permissible for any Moroccan now be expected .. People should enter, all Moroccans to the field of jihad and struggle for democracy to assist the King and to push ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Are you in favour or against this experiment?

Ahmed Rami:

Now after seven months.

ElGawahry:

Now this experience with you or against it?

Ahmed Rami:

There is no imminent open ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

We must speak clearly.

Ahmed Rami:

Yes, we can not give any governor whatsoever ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

I do not want to give an open cheque .. Process is the political process.

Ahmed Rami:

Chic open .. Anyway, I waited acts ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Allow me, Sir Be clear.

Ahmed Rami:

I waited acts, and I will support actions if appropriate ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Did you receive any indications yet?

ElGawahry:

Be clear.

Ahmed Rami:

Indicators and sacrificed so far.

Ahmed Rami:

Can not be ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Is it bad.

Ahmed Rami:

This program ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Be clear Sir, Is it bad?

Ahmed Rami:

Is very bad, or Say: very good ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Is Medhat again.

Ahmed Rami:

No, no, and I also do not praise that one.

ElGawahry:

What are the pros example?

Ahmed Rami:

The pros are kind of freedom of expression.

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Beautiful.

Ahmed Rami:

Is changed in some respects and some personalities Her responsibilities, and a kind of openness and simplify formalities, which, these positives, negatives is that these figures do not bear the new projects ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Who told you that? Explained, because all that has gathered them they were colleagues study ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

What wrong with that?!

Ahmed Rami:

Not any defect, but I think that to curb the ambition of the individual.

ElGawahry:

Anyone?

Ahmed Rami:

Anyone in the government ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

You are now talking about the King?

Ahmed Rami:

King, yes, this King ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Did you mean King now?

Ahmed Rami:

This now ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Did you mean King Or do you mean any individual?

Ahmed Rami:

I mean (Mohammed VI) .. If the king has helped him every Moroccan Criticism also direction, the message sent by Sheikh (Abdel Salam Yassin) sent this letter ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

No, excuse me, Be clear, we discuss the issue argue .. Remember Sheikh message, this theme contrasts with what I said ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

So far, damage to spin you, what you want to say?

ElGawahry:

Be clear.

Faisal Qasim:

Special and you (Ahmed Rami) are officers who attempted a coup on the late king, and you now criticize here as well.

ElGawahry:

This is an opportunity to play a self-criticism, especially as you ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

Minute, a minute .. Yes, yes ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

You say you, Mr. (Rami) I told you (Gazette State) I think you are right forearm to General (Oufqir) and you know that he fought (the Mahdi Ben Barka) and that the crimes ..

Ahmed Rami (Interruption):

I did not .. Excuse me, as if .. I have not b ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

This butcher and murderer of an international ..

Ahmed Rami (Interruption):

I have not helped .. General (Oufqir) .. I’ve been a supporter of .. These ideas Islamists who tried to overthrow the regime and establish an Islamic state in Morocco, and I salute all ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Must apologize to the country and the Moroccan people ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

This is not normal, Mr. ElGawahry come to this so that we do not become subject to prosecution.

ElGawahry:

We are debating this vital debate.

Faisal Qasim:

In short, what you want to say? Please be frank, does not spin much damage, what you want to say?

ElGawahry:

Say clear ideas.

Faisal Qasim:

I asked Moses, did not answer it!! Seven months passed now, but it can be said that Morocco is on the right road completely, and I also told you ..

Ahmed Rami (Interruption):

After seven months and reached the conviction that the king (Mohammed VI) Prisoner of the monarchy itself, it may be impossible to change it without changing the monarchy.

ElGawahry:

What does the word prisoner? .. Do you allow me to respond it?

Faisal Qasim:

Better.

ElGawahry:

First: recorded that Mr. (Rami) had focused on positive things considered, but did not continue in the real pros, the king now in the field, (Mohammed VI) in the field, and I think that the white revolution accident or located in Morocco, and there is a strategy change, you statement First: the establishment of a legal right, the right of state law, as you know, based on the principle of the rule of law .. Any No one is above the law ..

Ahmed Rami (excerpts):

Why brother (Abdul Salam Yassin) in prison, and in the ten years since the siege?

ElGawahry:

Pocket ..

Ahmed Rami (Interruption):

This crime against history, and this crime against human rights, brother (Abdul Salam Yassin) ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Participated in the coup attempt failed, and you Vote, which recorded the statement which I have received in the attempt ..

Ahmed Rami (Interruption):

To topple the regime of tyranny, and to establish an Islamic republican regime in Morocco ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Must apologize to the nation and the people.

Faisal Qasim:

This is not the issue, Mr. (Ahmed), this is not the issue, please.

ElGawahry:

Spoke about the project, on the strategy ..

Faisal Qasim:

I want this speech.

ElGawahry:

First: the establishment of a state of right and law, and know that they lead to the principle of the rule of law ..

Ahmed Rami (Interruption):

Where the right of law? (Abdul Salam Yassin) imprisonment for ten years .. Cheese.

ElGawahry:

Is not in prison, is his home, which selects (victim) and every time you want the police to lift his blockade, but the issue up ..

Ahmed Rami (Interruption):

Not up ..

ElGawahry:

But up ..

Ahmed Rami (Interruption):

But exercised his right.

ElGawahry:

Pick ..

Ahmed Rami (Interruption):

But exercise its right of expression, human right.

Faisal Qasim:

O people, O people .. One minute.

ElGawahry:

Does not reflect the opinion is.

Faisal Qasim:

Minutes.

ElGawahry:

Scout your unequivocal evidence, I first want to hear?

Faisal Qasim:

Better.

ElGawahry:

First: the establishment of the rule of law based on the principle of the rule of law, no one is above the law.

Faisal Qasim:

Ok talk.

ElGawahry:

I give you an example.

Ahmed Rami (Interruption):

King is not above the law now .. Is to break the laws to change the constitution .. A lie .. This lies and hypocrisy.

ElGawahry:

You lied because you’re outside of Morocco, did not know .. Leave this, leave this, it did not praise that one in my life .. You dementia.

Ahmed Rami:

You and complexity is the reason dictatorship in Morocco, is the basis of all ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

You alliance with the greatest tyrant in the State, are allied with the devil.

Ahmed Rami:

I even alliances with the devil to overthrow tyranny ..

ElGawahry:

Allied with the devil to bring down home, and the introduction of dictatorship in the country.

Ahmed Rami:

No alliance with ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

O people, O people .. One minute .. Completed its strategic, preferred.

ElGawahry:

This strategy is the simple question, may be considered pro forma, King now on the street, stands for light red car respect for the law of traffic.

Ahmed Rami:

But respect for Mr. (Abdul Salam) Falls law.

ElGawahry:

Respect for the law stands of red light.

Ahmed Rami:

This hypocrisy.

ElGawahry:

Issue (Fuad Afilali) raised in the (Paris) issued a communiqué in which the official spokesman for the royal palace, says: “No one is above the law, another issue ..

Faisal Qasim:

This principle is the first .. Better.

ElGawahry:

As well as to lift the immunity of a number of parliamentarians nothing happens for the first time in Morocco, II: In the strategy, safeguarding human rights.

Ahmed Rami (Interruption):

All these charity .. We want a constitution gives us rights, not charity ..

ElGawahry:

You are a man contested in your words because you’re a hateful to your country, and is believed allied with the devil you ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

Minutes of any group ..

ElGawahry:

Do not resort to burning papers and the heart of the table, this intellectual cowardice, discussed with say ..

Ahmed Rami:

I am discussing.

ElGawahry:

No cutters, were standing and the manners of dialogue, this is how cheese.

Ahmed Rami:

Is fatigue like you.

ElGawahry:

Still in the barracks mentality like you .. We must get rid of this.

Ahmed Rami:

If I have the barracks mentality of what you’ve attempted coup, as I said if you ..

Faisal Qasim:

Minutes of any group .. Ahmed Rami, you’re talking about democracy from the outset and wants to rid the country from tyranny .. Etc., you’ve, you participated in a military coup attempt .. Do you want to come to Morocco, another military regime governing the country ..?

Ahmed Rami:

I was in the National Union of Popular Forces, and gave the arrest at that time, several times, and I was against Islamic.

ElGawahry:

I will strengthen the right, Here’s your Gazette exist, and your photo military uniform, Mr. (Rami) .. Here’s your.

Ahmed Rami:

Yes, I am true.

ElGawahry:

O fascist, a country of freedom of religion.

Ahmed Rami:

I was a struggler ..

Faisal Qasim:

O people .. O people, O people a minute .. Said ElGawahry I want to complement the points short, so I respect Mr. (Rami).

ElGawahry:

I was talking about the point that the strategy right and the establishment of a state law based on truth and the rule of law, II: maintenance of human rights and individual freedom and collective, and the maintenance of security and consolidate stability, “where these things evolve? First crystallized in return (Sarafati) in the return of families (the Mahdi Ben Barka) God’s mercy, in the mortuary waiting for the struggling Moroccan (Abdel Karim rhetoric) .. Also for the first time in the modern history of Morocco, but in the history of the Arab homeland, which brought the king (Mohammed VI) Letter occasion of the World Charter for Human Rights, which he says: either that the next century be a century of human rights or not .. Third: choose the path of development and modernity while preserving the identity and privacy without recession-reliance, where it crystallized? Institutionalizing the sale, the sale in the history of successive kings of Morocco, from BALLADARES the Alawites, the sale of the scientists, and some members of the honorable footnote .. In the era of (Mohammed VI) and this indicates a very strong signal to the third element has become sell the institutions .. First: the Government, signed the First Minister and signed by all ministers one by one, is the matter .. Because it regards the so-called scholars imamate Britain to serve as ministers .. The two women had signed the sale, IV: There is another manifestation is that the Minister of Justice (resolve) .. No doubt you are aware of this because the deployment .. Said last Wednesday in front of the Foreign Affairs Committee of Parliament (France) in the field of human rights that no setbacks in Morocco and judicial cooperation between Morocco and France regarding the (Mahdi Ben Barka) there, and the continuous disclosure of the truth .. Is there a sense of an Arab regime is due to the issue of political assassination, and cooperate in order to uncover the truth?

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

Many of these important points.

ElGawahry:

Excuse me.

Faisal Qasim:

I will give you the area.

ElGawahry:

Transparency for the title of this important institution, through the allocation of official spokesman hurried to the palace (no setbacks) for the new king, and to learn the official member of the Confederation of Morocco’s book ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

Point here needs a lot of time to discuss, let’s start with point by point (Ahmed Rami) .. I want to ask you commenting on this, so things clearer for viewers, no one can doubt now in the new register of human rights in Morocco, I think the record of human rights in Morocco is now compared with the record of human rights in Arab countries other shining white, no more no Political prisoners in Moroccan prisons, while crowded prisons Arab political prisoners who had been imprisoned for simply saying the word, this one hand, who lost in a time in the history of Morocco .. Now there are investigations in such matters and compensation to those who, Tell me of the Arab system, which is investigating the disappearance of a person or provide any compensation for his family? All of these things .. Allowing the father of opponents such as (Sarafati) and (Sarafati) to return to Morocco, while chasing the other Arab regimes citizens once uttering a word about anything, how are?

Ahmed Rami:

I have not boycotted .. I hope no intersection.

Faisal Qasim:

Not interrupt, and will not allow this.

Ahmed Rami:

This talk, which he said is propaganda burden, while people in Morocco awaiting acts, there is hunger and poverty, have lost last year more than 70 thousand Moroccan, who risked their lives to travel to the (Spain) and Spanish authorities are irreversible, because a huge campaign against the Moroccans (Spain), Question (Sarafati) in Human Rights (Sarafati) .. The King was taken quickly, nervously .. The King had taken a decision to return (Sarafati) not because he legitimate opposition leader, but because he is Jewish ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

Do you want to say that he wants to return (Sarafati) only for the eyes of the Jews?

Ahmed Rami:

Let me Finnish Please, because what he has done Sarafati? Sarafati was an enemy “earthy unity” , and with the idea of secession .. and division of the Sahara, also supported the trend of apartheid in Morocco, as well as against the Islamic trend in Morocco, Human Rights which is always the Jewish Human Rights only, and not the rights of Muslims, we just call in Morocco, we have to be at least the same rights as Jews ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

Moroccan Jews.

Ahmed Rami:

Moroccan Jews, and even the Palestinians .. Even the Jews of Palestine .. Now the Islamic world (Palestine) major, where the largest Jewish human rights of Muslims, for example, what this issue is the difference between (Sarafati), Sheikh (Abdel Salam Yassin)? Case

(Ebn Baraka) is not a political issue, the family did not enter politics .. Only his wife and children returned, and they have nothing to do with politics, but there is no Islamists returned or been released for example brother (Abdel Karim Motee) .. Still abroad because it Islami, brother (Abdul Salam Yassin) for the inmates removed ten years ago, such a major scandal, the perception that only Jews resided years in house arrest, then to the minimum and did not sit there, and the issue of development and modernity, is not legitimate in Islam, absolutely not Eternal, but limited ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

I want point by point.

Ahmed Rami:

I answered what he said about human rights.

Faisal Qasim:

Can you deny that the prison (cleaned) of the political prisoners?

Ahmed Rami:

My brother, is there an Islamic released? There are still Islamists in prison.

Faisal Qasim:

This valid question, how is this really talk?

Mr. (Abdul Salam) stronghold new Moroccan regime that has freedom, democracy ..

Ahmed Rami (Interruption):

I can not find .. After

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

One minute, stronghold .. When some Moroccan newspapers publishing the letter from Sheikh (Abdel Salam Yassin) to the Moroccan regime, all the preparation of these newspapers stopped, “Where is this Rant freedom and democracy? How?!

ElGawahry:

First: who forgot to notice is that the Sheikh (Yassin) remained the same at his home in another Arab regime publish defamatory, and I will give you the statement, published defamatory to the King of the country, and appoints himself in a position to say when that (Hassan II) – which is in the hands of God — A man guilty, while God – the Almighty God and – who decide the fate of human beings, for Islamists who are in prison are the murderers of the Islamic Group (Omar Bin Mad) martyr of the Socialist Union and the Progressive Judaism movement, this crime in general right ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

Their hands stained with blood.

ElGawahry:

Yes, stained with blood, and went through the court, and issued a judgement, and enjoyed the rights enjoyed by everyone, which is before the judiciary .. (Abdul Salam Yassin) should not obscure the picture that gave us (aiming) a different picture, and I will give you myself, I will give you the words of one of the founders of the group of (Justice and Charity) and what to say for Sheikh (Yassin), because the Sheikh (Yassin) is the same as if it provided advice While for others it ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

Briefly.

ElGawahry:

(Mr. Bashir) a member of this group twenty years ago, one of the founders, was expelled from the group only because it asked for determining the terms of reference of Sheikh (Yassin), and determine the terms of reference of the extension of the Community (Justice and Charity) .. Allow me to (Bashir) said through his mind – a publication in the newspaper of the Moroccan – that the Sheikh (Yassin) in income-oriented wool, and gave the same formula guardian, to the extent that the Disciples of Christ around attributing him that penetrate the wall, and it exists everywhere ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

So that we do not have all our theme is ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Whenever it is approaching towards detente may not be satisfied ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

There was talk of establishing the rule of law, and this was a speech prominently in speeches sermon new Moroccan monarch, often focused on the theme of building the rule of law, and there are many steps in this direction.

Ahmed Rami:

The first condition of democracy even in the western concept is not central to the power .. Any distribution of power to institutions and boards, only now concentrate everything in one person, even before the death of the Islamic Revolution (Khomeini) – God’s mercy – the deployment of the authorities to the boards, institutions, and there is no .. For example in Iran until all the places who are also elected the Republic’s Supreme Leader, there is one authority inherited or inherit legitimacy,

First: We therefore in Morocco, this is a very big risk because all advisers King (Mohammed VI) Advisors, Jews, does not take himself advisors Muslims, Islamists Sheikh Qaradawi ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

Allow me, I will give you the area.

Ahmed Rami:

But there – Jews – Senior Advisor, which is (Azoulay) ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

I will give you the area.

Ahmed Rami:

We are under a Jewish system , not an Islamic one .. If the Jews are working and defending the Jewish state occupied in (Palestine) why are they opposing us in the formation of an Islamic state in any Islamic country? Any Islamist movement .. Any direction from the Islamist Islamic state is considered and labeled “terrifying bogeyman” , and therefore I say that the state list in Morocco are Jewish state, not an Islamic state, and I will explain what I mean ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

Do you will respond to this talk, and known to say that (Israel) nicknamed (Hassan II) on the street in seventy (Israel), just a small piece of information.

ElGawahry:

This statement is irresponsible to say the regime in Morocco constitutionally based on the Islamic Sharia, to say that the Jews, this is a crude, irresponsible .. Also be saying (Azoulay) Jew, is a Moroccan Jew, and Islam is built on tolerance, we do not differentiate between Christians and Jews and Muslims, the whole history of Islam based on tolerance, called Mr. (aiming) he defends the Islamic state?! Islamic state is never persecuted Jews, vice versa, or persecuted Christians .. Allow me (Sarafati) Jew, this is not a defect, a Moroccan Jew, a Jew or even a Christian religion, these ideas are due to the pre ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

Reactionary ideas.

ElGawahry:

Superficial trivial ideas, backward (Sarafati) Moroccan activist defended the independence of Morocco, a man who defended the Palestinian cause and against Zionism, Mr. (aiming) may not now differentiate between Judaism and Zionism, we are not against Judaism, the movement against the racist Zionist movement, you, Sayed (aiming) stems from a racist with regret, and talking about the Islamic state, and this contradicts the essence of Islam based on tolerance towards all religions.

Faisal Qasim:

The subject of human rights, you mentioned earlier that the king in a speech on the anniversary of the Charter of Human Rights, announced its total bias of its noble values, but the question, all or most Arab leaders drawl defence of human rights, and some are dedicated to human rights prizes, and they trample Human rights day and night, each dedicated human rights as teaching in schools, and human rights under the shoe … So forth, then the lesson is not in this talk big about human rights, all the talk about safeguarding human rights. But where human rights?.

ElGawahry:

The issue is not this proposal, which could be located in the Middle East, and I avoid that the person you, my friend, respect for the traditions of dialogue, but if you want to you a personal system, the Moroccan situation quite different, complement you, there are crystals .. There are a manifestation of a culture of human rights in Morocco, just talked about the strategy of ownership in the human rights system will also give something concrete on the ground, and now I give you a strategy also extends to the sphere of government, I now investigating the disappearances of political detention, this is a reality for us.

Faisal Qasim:

Right.

ElGawahry:

Appropriate national legislation with international conventions, there are now re-consider the drafting of the legal arsenal that relate to freedom of individual and collective level in the Criminal Code of liberty public events institutions are institutions that are not words, first: to develop an international centre of the composition, information and coordination of the Declaration of Human Rights with the Office of the High Commissioner of the United Nations, also A network of centres of legal and psychological support for children who are in difficult situations, a centre for psychological and legal support for women in difficult situations, the proposal Foundation, the Foundation, a name (broker) will come out into existence, its mission has received complaints of violations and investigation, which is an independent institution, As well as the national programme for human rights education in schools, in the next school season will become mandatory rule for students, responding to the request for public utility of human rights organizations in Morocco, which is non-existent in a number of Arab countries ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

How are? Is this a fantasy?

Ahmed Rami:

I just want to give me the opportunity to answer, it does not give me the opportunity and inconclusive.

Faisal Qasim:

Better.

Ahmed Rami:

The fact that racism because I criticized the Jewish, I am a Muslim, and the Islamic faith .. For me the Koran speaks about Judaism is not about Zionism ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

In order not to turn to the subject ..

Ahmed Rami:

No, Ward ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

This is not the issue.

Ahmed Rami:

Jewish and Zionist racism is the foundation, we just defend and resist the Jewish occupation, the Arab world and the whole Islamic Palestine major occupiers politically and intellectually and media, the issue (Azoulay) and (Sarafati) in which I was asked, (Azoulay) and (Sarafati) Zionists Jews, Loyalty only ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Let me ..

Ahmed Rami:

No intersection ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

I will give you the area.

Ahmed Rami:

Do you allow me not to boycott again.

ElGawahry:

These Zionists? No, Sarafati Zionist.

Faisal Qasim:

O people .. Sir, Your Community ..

ElGawahry:

We at least Mtakgayn the manners of Islam.

Faisal Qasim:

Want to complete this point to keep in the subject.

Ahmed Rami:

We must boycott again.

Faisal Qasim:

Sir, please, please.

Faisal Qasim:

My brother, sir .. Please.

Ahmed Rami:

How do I accept that continued to talk like this, replying to the post, not boycotted.

ElGawahry:

Says Lee (Sarafati) Zionist .. Moroccan people ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

O people ..

Ahmed Rami:

This Jew.

Faisal Qasim:

O Sid Ahmed Rami .. In order not to become subject ..

Ahmed Rami:

Which we are fighting against it.

Faisal Qasim:

There are a lot of points .. Said (Ahmed Rami) Please.

Ahmed Rami:

Jews in Morocco BE Marxism and the Communist Party, created an entire generation of young people in schools, political parties and organizations of Marxism, had to learn is Atheist, alienation from religion, but (Sarafati) when the married (Rabbi) to marry a Jewish marriage a religious Jew.

Faisal Qasim:

In order not to become subject to trial, this is not the issue, the subject is human rights, has put a lot of important points, to call for human rights.

Faisal Qasim:

How are?

ElGawahry:

Right of all religions, Christians and Jews.

Ahmed Rami:

Is not you instead of dialogue and debate, let me speak, I’m not boycotting it.

Faisal Qasim:

My brother, please, Sir.

ElGawahry:

Do you accept that give a distorted facts that Sarafati, one of the militants adults, says is a Zionist!!

Faisal Qasim:

I answered it.

Ahmed Rami:

I do not say a Zionist, I say Jewish.

Faisal Qasim:

This is not the issue, any group of any group .. This is not the issue.

ElGawahry:

Tolerant Islam with all religions.

Ahmed Rami:

Jewish Zionist created.

ElGawahry:

Create the manners of Islam, argues the one that is better.

Faisal Qasim:

O people, please, abide by all the time.

ElGawahry:

He argued the one that is better.

Faisal Qasim:

Minute, a minute .. It seems that (Faisal Reza) of the (London) prefer (Faisal Reza) of the (London), (great) from Morocco better, Madam better.

Well:

First: I thank the program, and greetings to Brother (Faisal denominator), to Dr. (essential) .. I have inside, the first Moroccan citizen, does not allow any person Emma was developed or type that affects a person’s father, the late Moroccan Builder Morocco present, Mr. (Hassan II), one of our holy places, God .. The nation .. King.

Faisal Qasim:

No one touched on this topic, we discuss Siasatali any case, the better.

Well:

Yes, I’m second person born in the so-called era of the march, perhaps Mr. ElGawahry knows .. Insurrectionists not come until after my studies and my reading of what happened in coups, both in newspapers Moroccan Socialist Union or programs I saw in (France), I’m like the Moroccans who dub Mr. (aiming) as a traitor, because he was pro l (for Oufqir) traitor and assassin for the French client, Which was to Ak (secular) Mr. (Rami) now see him defend Islam while he was loyal to the Ak (secular) and now we defend democracy, since we live through the eras (Hassan II) and thank God, is (Mohammed VI) and devotes Thank God, and we do not need to opinions, not for his ideas, because the traitor remains a traitor, although the Moroccan monarch issued a pardon to the right of everyone but the man did not arrive for such, I say to convey through your programme that argument very, very weak, and thank you.

Faisal Qasim:

Thank you, how are? You have a very offensive.

Ahmed Rami:

I accept that fact was admitted to the armed forces was in the era of (Oufqir) I was a struggler in the National Union for the People In an era (Oufqir) was arrested several times .. Twice, and tortured in prison, I was known activist, entered the army only to overthrow the royal regime, and we as an organization Free Officers, we were affected b (Gamal Abdel Nasser) and the Islamic movement as they exist at that time until the statement, the aim was to establish an Islamic reality.

Faisal Qasim:

But the question is, this is very important, but believes that the situation in Morocco is now under the monarchy thousand times better than all the other systems? Why them?! We have facts on the ground .. You wanted to assess the military coup, is the Arab world need more coups and military regimes? That is the question.

Ahmed Rami:

Do you allow me to answer.

Faisal Qasim:

Sent down to the street, you’re calling for democracy, and wants to shift the Democratic Balbstar (shoes) military.

Ahmed Rami:

Allow me to answer.

Faisal Qasim:

Prefer, would prefer.

Ahmed Rami:

I tried to do a military coup because there were not democratic, has tried to strive within the civilian opposition, were arrested and tortured, and wrote to newspapers in the newspaper (magazine Morocco) (the Gazette de Moura) this and published a letter sent to (Mohammed VI), published in Political week (upper Mustafa) on February 14, and sacrificed by my thoughts, what I am asking for from (Mohammed VI), and she asked me: Is the Moroccan regime better now? I say: that the Moroccan regime – a Muslim and I believe in the Islamic nation and the holy Koran – consider that the Moroccan regime of the worst Arab regimes, there is no system, with the exception of (Hussein) in the (Jordan) there is no Arab ruler was an agent of Mossad, an intelligence agent of Judaism, this publication Jews in the book open secrets …

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

Why you come out to the Jewish subject always, I am talking about democracy now.

Ahmed Rami:

She asked me why is the worst system, here ..

ElGawahry:

Existing system now ..

Ahmed Rami:

As recognized by Israel, Hassan II was the spy.

Faisal Qasim:

Why evasion? Why evasion? I want to ask a question here, what is the Arab regime that allowed .. I want to start from basics and axioms, how to consider the subject of the opposition or the opposition in the Arab world from the Atlantic Ocean to the Gulf? No one opens his mouth?! No one can open his mouth only when the dentist .. Supplements and chasing everyone in prison, serving twenty years, thirty years, no one hears about them, this question .. (Hassan II) or the Moroccan government has opposed the prosecution in the (exile) and said to her: Come and receive the judgement .. (Abderrahmane Youssoufi) now at the head of the Government of Morocco, a Moroccan opposition, this is a very remarkable achievement, and there are those who say that in the light of the sun actually rises Arabs from Morocco, how are?!

Ahmed Rami:

My brother, I live (Sweden) and more freedom from Morocco, but this does not prevent us from saying that the Jewish lobby and controlled in (Sweden) and (America) .. (America) no democracy, but there Tgianih control of the Jewish lobby, I considered the Palestinian cause a central issue as a joint Arab central issue of the position ..

ElGawahry:

You confuse securities, this intellectual cowardice.

Faisal Qasim:

Sir, you did not answer my question, Mr. (Ahmed Rami) .. Accurate, Mr. ElGawahry You did not answer my question, I put to you that no government rotation, now the opposition for the first time in the Arab world, up to power, how are?

Ahmed Rami:

There is no rotation, because all parties involved in the current government admitted that the elections that led to this government were forged, all confessed, who were elected submitted his resignation, saying: rigging, but elected, and therefore this government is an expression of the (cooking) of the palace, only to makeup For decoration, and therefore not being heard in Morocco only for parties of property ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

You graduated in 1972 and escaped outside Morocco ..

Ahmed Rami:

Many people contact us and ask .. There should not be published Facts about Morocco, read in the newspapers of Foreign Affairs of the (Lemon) and (BBC) ..

Faisal Qasim:

Minute, a minute .. I want to ask.

ElGawahry:

Morocco .. The left-hour .. Is not a Moroccan .. Today facts on the earth, citizenship is that we have heard fellow Moroccan, I’m not this is the Moroccan people that the (Ahmed Rami) to submit an apology mechanism ..

Ahmed Rami:

The Moroccan police try to contact the island .. this way the Moroccan police.

ElGawahry:

And apologize to the nation.

Faisal Qasim:

Minutes .. O people, O people .. We in the subject .. Be patient, my brother, sir, Mr. ElGawahry on the issue of rotation, I mentioned the topic of rotation, stated that this is the first time that hit the Arab opposition to the ruling, saying it was not there, how are those who say that the traditional opposition parties in Morocco Such as (the Socialist Union) have become damaged in orbit is only a minor, became a palace, no longer oppose any circumstances, evidence of this when they represent the pulse of the street, the street with it, now the street is not with the Moroccan opposition ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Who told you this?

Faisal Qasim:

Or with this trial, Moroccan street with the opposition, the truth ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Who told you this? These erroneous conclusions.

Faisal Qasim:

I want to ask you a question I have is present here.

ElGawahry:

But he said this?! This wrong information.

Faisal Qasim:

There are those who wonder, is moving the situation in Morocco from the dictatorship of the minority regime to a democratic system, as happened in (South Africa) and (Spain) Can be considered ..

Faisal Qasim:

Minutes, I have a question, Can the Government consider (Youssoufi) Government for transit towards democracy or government consumption forty another year before he wakes up everyone from dizziness dizziness resembling independence, to find himself after Morocco in 2000 in a dictatorship imposed by the presence of opposition stood so long, Then surrendered without a face-saving negotiations?!

ElGawahry:

This political establishment ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

How is the political establishment?!

ElGawahry:

Morocco’s independence by the national and (Mohamed V) .. Do you know this! ! Allied with the National Movement (Mohamed V) as a result of this alliance came independence, now the Alliance for the democratic transition, because the stage now is not the phase rotation, do not lie to ourselves, is a transitional stage towards the rotation, which bears the real ballot boxes, the political opposition is not the seat Empty, a culture of opposition is not moral, because each political party has a political project for access to power because it is not in a corner ..

Ahmed Rami (Interruption):

Duty to question.

ElGawahry:

Authority is not a final capitulation, is the political consensus is a historical reference, which gave the independence required ..

Ahmed Rami (Interruption):

I have a personal question .. You are the one who wrote ten articles in praise the system, such praise without being able to criticize.

ElGawahry:

You do not say .. I have a question, you know ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

You talk to me if you achieve, as if the police ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

Minutes of any group ..

ElGawahry:

You say democracy, and hear other views, and pass judgement.

Ahmed Rami:

Is traced ..

Faisal Qasim:

Minutes of any group.

Ahmed Rami:

Is traced visit (Mohammed VI) to (France) and how it was?! If were not followed, I tell you ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

You Information Center, the Center for strategic.

Ahmed Rami:

Newspaper (like the Seychelles) published an article in the number of executions on January 19, 2000 by the King of Morocco (Mohamed VI) since Jan. 17 special visit (to Paris), accompanied by 17 people, in addition to more than ten members of the police officers who have obtained a license to carry a weapon despite prevent French law Therefore, in addition to the aircraft (Boeing) special friend, the new king, it came to him from another plane type

(AC 130) on a scale clinical 2 × 2 meters, with physical education, and television screen with a broad majority, the newspaper adds a comment to say: that those who call it the King of the poor is not the property poor ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

The question .. But there are some who say that all manifestations of (door) and extravagance that prevailed in the old era ended so completely that the king pays the bill for new hotels and restaurants bill .. (Mohamed Achb) from (Rabat) prefer Sir.

Mohammed Achb:

Dr. Faisal .. Good evening, I noted that there was an initial indication of authors on the screen that Mr. (aiming) officer Moroccan exhibitions, and on each case to the fact that there is no opposition in Morocco officers at all, nor is there any historical terms of the organization on behalf of Free Officers, and this

Fairer truth, and every case we know that our friend (aiming) to involvement by General (Oufqir) in the coup attempt in (Alserat) and this caused the deaths of many innocent civilians, military, and therefore that Mr. (proposal) does not have the legitimacy and legality of conversation For the policy was implemented contrary to human rights issues and issues of democracy, the second point: I do not know what the secret link between (sex race) and the Islamists in Morocco, of course, we appreciate a preacher, Sheikh (Abdel Salam Yassin) but we know that the Islamists renounce violence in Morocco, and renounce Dealing with foreign, and we know the roads traveled by, or fled by our friend (aiming) of Morocco in the circumstances .. In association alien ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

Brother Mohammed.

Mohammed Achb:

With respect to the subject matter, which affects the fundamental changes occurring in Morocco I want to point out some observations, the salient features of the new era in Morocco lies in the three tracks.

First: The closer to the street and focus on the concerns of poor and marginalized groups, the second point: the traditions relating to the consolidation of more sophisticated in the field of freedoms, there are more freedoms in the media in the initiative in economic openness, then there is another issue relating to give a greater role for civil society, and I think including You raised a letter, Sheikh (Abdel Salam Yassin) I think that that message was a reaction, because the young king went directly to the conditions or putting an alternative that can overcome the growing fundamentalist currents that we know where they are growing poverty, where social differences, and this After all, a reality in Morocco, but the firm said that King (Mohammed VI) during this latest transformations can be called revolutionary intellectual and psychological, why? Because it removed the Moroccans compound essential for a composite fear, and we know when there is a fear complex coup, and the disruption of democracy, and second hand: the King (Mohammed VI) to renew the role of the state and all political actors .. I think ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

There are many points that need hours of debate, thank you very much .. (Ahmed Rami) closer to the street, I want ..

Ahmed Rami (Interruption):

I respond to the accusations.

Faisal Qasim:

Why not say a word, now appears the New Testament without manifestations door, and without well .. Closer to the people, to see this great popular rallying around King ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Unanimity.

Faisal Qasim:

Unanimity.

Ahmed Rami:

I said: that all his popularity is now based on expectations concerning him, but hopes were quickly evaporate if it did not serve anything, there is no work and achievements of the long awaited by the people, the problems of the people are the problems of poverty ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

The problems of the people.

Ahmed Rami:

The problems of homelessness and administrative corruption, and moral ruin, drug problems, do you know that just last week compared the fight against poverty there was a huge campaign to combat the poor police, so he was arrested in (Casablanca) on more than ten thousand poor, in a battle called the battle of cleaning, in Era (Hassan II) ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

Eradication of poverty eradication on the poor.

Ahmed Rami:

Yes, in the era of (Hassan II) was arrested on the poor at the time of the conference so people did not see poverty, there are walls of shame everywhere, now arrested without a summit.

Faisal Qasim:

This question, I want to ask in this context, you heard boats death of thousands of Moroccans are shipped overseas to Europe in search of a living?! Is the solution to this problem (growing) in Morocco .. The problem of poverty, creation of the so-called Solidarity Fund charity advocated by the new monarch, “Is this is?! I want to ask.

ElGawahry:

No, no, the question is clear .. The problem of poverty and unemployment is a problem mainly Morocco and Mr. (‘s (there thinks that reveals a new ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

But more widespread than anywhere else.

ElGawahry:

No, excuse me, any other areas in developed countries where poverty is a global problem, for boats of death, of course, when fill job prospects, we must not forget that the new monarch, both the Government (Abderrahmane Youssoufi) or (Mohammed VI) is responsible for four Decades .. Forty years, is the heavy legacy that produced poverty, unemployment and produced, and produced (Ahmed’s) ideas of fascism and his alliance with (Oufqir) assassin (son of a pond) and the genocide ..

Faisal Qasim (Interruption):

But the problem in the Arab regimes that unfairly tarnished and every patient as well .. Comes and says: “The former regime is responsible, and the walk ..

ElGawahry (Interruption):

Information Authority says seven months on board the (Mohammed VI) throne, Do you think that eradicating poverty as a magic wand?!
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